Clutch problems
Cargo Master
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From: NJ
Sounds like a shifter issue, not a clutch issue, if it goes into gear fine but grinds when you let the clutch out. Possibly a bent shift fork. What type of transmission is this? Is the shifter tight or does it feel loose at all? Could be as simple as bushings in the shifter worn and not allowing full engagement of the slider so when you apply power it pops out of gear.
How does the truck shift if you shift without the clutch as if driving a trans with no syncros?
How does the truck shift if you shift without the clutch as if driving a trans with no syncros?
pedant
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From: EXTREME southwest CT
What do you mean you 'get it into gear, and let the clutch out and it grinds'???
You can get it into gear fine but upon releasing the clutch it ...does what?
Did the P.O. have a clue what he was doing? (you state he replaced the clutch)
Fix the flexing firewall...it will definitely help the clutch disengage.
You can get it into gear fine but upon releasing the clutch it ...does what?
Did the P.O. have a clue what he was doing? (you state he replaced the clutch)
Fix the flexing firewall...it will definitely help the clutch disengage.
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I'm also looking for clarification... are you saying the grinding begins AFTER the clutch is
fully released? IOW the gear shift has successfully moved between gears, you raise the
pedal to the floor, and then something grinds? Or while the pedal is to the floor and you're
trying to move the shifter from gear to gear? How well does the shifter move between
gears? Not trying to be a jerk, just that precision helps and you've obviously been doing a
lot with no change in results.
I would also question the abilities of the PO, did he know wht he was doing? The idiot things
the PO of my truck did (who uses blue RTV on head gaskets?) would make you shake your
head in disbelief.
How much time elapses between experiencing grinding and then bleeding the clutch and
finding things appear to work for a short while again?
fully released? IOW the gear shift has successfully moved between gears, you raise the
pedal to the floor, and then something grinds? Or while the pedal is to the floor and you're
trying to move the shifter from gear to gear? How well does the shifter move between
gears? Not trying to be a jerk, just that precision helps and you've obviously been doing a
lot with no change in results.
I would also question the abilities of the PO, did he know wht he was doing? The idiot things
the PO of my truck did (who uses blue RTV on head gaskets?) would make you shake your
head in disbelief.
How much time elapses between experiencing grinding and then bleeding the clutch and
finding things appear to work for a short while again?
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From: St Louis Mo
I'm also looking for clarification... are you saying the grinding begins AFTER the clutch is
fully released? IOW the gear shift has successfully moved between gears, you raise the
pedal to the floor, and then something grinds? Or while the pedal is to the floor and you're
trying to move the shifter from gear to gear? How well does the shifter move between
gears? Not trying to be a jerk, just that precision helps and you've obviously been doing a
lot with no change in results.
I would also question the abilities of the PO, did he know wht he was doing? The idiot things
the PO of my truck did (who uses blue RTV on head gaskets?) would make you shake your
head in disbelief.
How much time elapses between experiencing grinding and then bleeding the clutch and
finding things appear to work for a short while again?
fully released? IOW the gear shift has successfully moved between gears, you raise the
pedal to the floor, and then something grinds? Or while the pedal is to the floor and you're
trying to move the shifter from gear to gear? How well does the shifter move between
gears? Not trying to be a jerk, just that precision helps and you've obviously been doing a
lot with no change in results.
I would also question the abilities of the PO, did he know wht he was doing? The idiot things
the PO of my truck did (who uses blue RTV on head gaskets?) would make you shake your
head in disbelief.
How much time elapses between experiencing grinding and then bleeding the clutch and
finding things appear to work for a short while again?
YOu can look at some of my original posts and see I describe the same exact thing from the start.
I drive about 3 -4 blocks and everything is great. No problem. All of a sudden when I push the pedal to the floor, put the shifter into 1st gear, let out the clutch pedal, it grinds. I push the pedal in, and try again, and get the same results. Every gear is the same. Today after shifting around for about 10 mins I got it back into gear. I can't explain it any more than that. Since I replace the master cyl, I do have better pedal and it feels better. But it did not stop my problem.
The guy I got the truck from I don't think knew much about anything. But I did get to drive the truck for about 2 months before my trouble started.
Cargo Master
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From: NJ
Internal trans problem, probably a bent fork or really worn slider. Possibly (doubtful) worn bushings in the shifter. Sounds to me like you need to pull the trans part and find the problem. What transmission do you have?
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From: St Louis Mo
Two transmissions having the exact same problem are not probable.
I'm lost. I's driving me crazy!
Looks like everyone else is lost too.
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From: Denver Metro Area, CO
I think we've all done as well as can be done with text descriptions, have you had any local
mechanics look/listen to it?
mechanics look/listen to it?
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From: St Louis Mo
Well Like I said I will just replace the clutch and pressure plate, and nothing else can be done to fix the problem. Everything will have been replaced and put in new by me.
But I still say thanks to everyone that has given ideas and solutions. I won't give up.
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From: St Louis Mo
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Here is the original link that stared my adventure or replacements.
Transmission Problems?
Transmission Problems?
was.
The path a lot of us here were taking was related to a clutch that isn't fully
disengaging for some reason (and the symptoms of such a problem generally
don't include the word BAM!). But you've replaced much of the clutch as well
as the transmission itself and you still have the problem so I'm now thinking
along the same lines as ArdWrknTrk in that the problem is apparently coming
from someplace else. How bleeding the clutch makes the symtoms disappear
for a while, nobody knows but I'll bet it'll make itself known when you finally
find the true problem.
Being a 4x4, the transfer case comes to mind assomething to look at.
Methanoholic
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From: Maine (NorCal Native)
Ok, If you have already made the shift (another words, it appears to have gone into gear), then let the clutch out and it grinds You have a transmission problem, not a clutch problem ...
They are the same transmissions ... I suspect used, they could likely have the same issues.
However, ArdWrknTrk has a great point ... You could be spinning a yoke on the splines, though I doubt this is the issue, I would think it would happen all the time.
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It's a 4wd ??? That makes a big difference I didn't know, don't remember the old thread. Have someone make it grind while you lay BESIDE (NOT UNDER) the truck and watch the drive lines ... You may have a broke TC
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-Enjoy
fh : )_~
They are the same transmissions ... I suspect used, they could likely have the same issues.
However, ArdWrknTrk has a great point ... You could be spinning a yoke on the splines, though I doubt this is the issue, I would think it would happen all the time.
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It's a 4wd ??? That makes a big difference I didn't know, don't remember the old thread. Have someone make it grind while you lay BESIDE (NOT UNDER) the truck and watch the drive lines ... You may have a broke TC
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-Enjoy
fh : )_~
pedant
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From: EXTREME southwest CT
If the pinion comes loose from the yoke it will be forced sideways with the application of torque and it will get sucked in and contact the carrier under trailing throttle.
I can see how neither one of these will happen with the clutch disengaged.
I can see how neither one of these will happen with the clutch disengaged.