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Old May 9, 2010 | 08:48 PM
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i have a 88 f350 2wd that iam converting to 4x4 it has a zf 2wd and iam puting in a zf5 4x4 do i need a different crossmember
 
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Old May 9, 2010 | 08:50 PM
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no sir you are good to go with the cross member u have since ur going to use a zf 4x4
 
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Old May 9, 2010 | 10:28 PM
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I'm pretty sure that the 4x4 crossmember is different than the 4x2 to allow for front driveshaft clearance.
 
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Old May 10, 2010 | 12:01 AM
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no no no no no... no the transmissions use the same cross member....

and if its not then by god its the first one i ever saw that was different between a 2wd and 4wd version beings the mount is in the same spot
 
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Old May 10, 2010 | 02:56 AM
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Yes, there is a difference between the manual transmission 2wd and 4x4 transmissions. The 4x4 drops down slightly at the trans mount and then drops down more where the front drive shaft passes through.

The 2wd cross member goes straight across from frame rail to frame rail.
 
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Old May 10, 2010 | 11:30 AM
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:P yup im wrong on this one lol and so was everyone else...
it drops down about 2 inches on the passengers side where is mounts to the frame then it may drop 1/4 inch next to the transmission on the drivers side





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Old May 10, 2010 | 02:20 PM
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Silly Hitokori, of course they ain't the same...
Everyone knows Ford never learned how to make the same part twice! ;)

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Old May 10, 2010 | 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Hitokori
:P yup im wrong on this one lol and so was everyone else...
Not that it matters, but how was I wrong?

Originally Posted by Alvin in AZ
Everyone knows Ford never learned how to make the same part twice!
On an interesting note, a 5 speed 4x2 crossmember and brackets from a '95 F150 bolts into my '87 frame and mates with the '90 ZF I installed. Not bad for keeping things the same, although they did change the spacing of the transmission mounting stud slots in the crossmember so I had to buy a transmission mount (isolator) for the '95.
 
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Old May 10, 2010 | 05:34 PM
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lol xD idk i just have to drag people down with me

any ways now that its all sorted out and we know for sure what it looks like
 
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Old May 10, 2010 | 09:20 PM
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Gotcha....

Those pictures are worth 1000 words, thanks for finding them
 
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Old May 10, 2010 | 09:25 PM
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thats what i thought good thing i didnt save it dodododod!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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Old May 10, 2010 | 09:48 PM
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Ya when i did the 2wd mazda5 to ZF 4x4 swap i found a mazda5 4x4 cross member just in case i needed it. I ended up using it. I think that the 2wd cross member raises the trans/tcase so much that it may contact the floor board. But i didn't try it. I still have the 2wd cross member sitting in the garage, along with a small block 2wd ZF that i can seem to get rid of.
 
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