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Old Apr 19, 2010 | 07:40 PM
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Rubbing/grinding sound under load

Hi All,
Just bought a 2000 Expy a month ago, though I am certainly no stranger to Fords. It is a 4x4 with the 5.4 motor, 3.55 gears and 118K miles.

I hear a rubbing/grinding sound when going slowly (20mph) up a rather steep hill near my house. It is not steady, but oscillates almost as if it is with the wheel rotation. It feels as if it is coming from right under my feet.

I also feel the same rubbing/grinding sensation at freeway speeds when throttling up a hill to hold my speed.

The sensation goes away in both situations when I the off the throttle. And it does it in 2wd mode. I confess that it didn't occur to me to test it in 4wd mode until just now.

Any experience/advice with this noise? Thanks to all.
Jack
Hangtown, CA
 
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Old Apr 19, 2010 | 07:56 PM
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I believe the front drive shaft is located very close to other components. You might take a look under there to see if you can see any signs of rubbing.
 
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Old Apr 19, 2010 | 08:08 PM
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Front shaft rubbing?

Does the front shaft turn even when in 2wd?

Thanks for your reply, BTW.
 
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Old Apr 19, 2010 | 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by YooperJack
Does the front shaft turn even when in 2wd?

Thanks for your reply, BTW.
I believe so, if I remember correctly.
 
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Old Apr 19, 2010 | 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by YooperJack
Just bought a 2000 Expy a month ago,
I didn't think the 2000 had a selector position for 2WD. Does it?
 
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Old Apr 20, 2010 | 01:32 AM
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2000 Explorer 4wd

It has a **** on the dash that says AWD/4Hi/4Lo, so yeah I assumed incorrectly it was a 2wd setting. The AWD then, is a computer-controlled 2wd/AWD situation???

What I don't get about it, with respect to my earlier question about the drive shaft turning is that I can definitely tell the difference between the AWD and the 4wd setting. So I assumed the driveshaft was not engaged in the AWD mode.

Anyway, I will check for driveshaft clearances.
 
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Old Apr 20, 2010 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by YooperJack
It has a **** on the dash that says AWD/4Hi/4Lo, so yeah I assumed incorrectly it was a 2wd setting. The AWD then, is a computer-controlled 2wd/AWD situation??? .
The front DS always turns with the front wheels. (In other words, there is no "lock-out" on the front hubs.)
When in 4WD the transfer case clutch is engaged and the front and rear DSs try to turn together. (That's what causes the drive train to 'bind up' if you try to turn on a hard surface. )
When in AWD (All Wheel Drive) the transfer case clutch is disengaged (which allows you to turn easily on hard surfaces), until the computer detects that the front and rear driveshafts are turning at different speeds. The computer then engages the transfer case clutch which locks the front and rear driveshafts together.
 
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Old Apr 20, 2010 | 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by pdqford
The front DS always turns with the front wheels. (In other words, there is no "lock-out" on the front hubs.)
When in 4WD the transfer case clutch is engaged and the front and rear DSs try to turn together. (That's what causes the drive train to 'bind up' if you try to turn on a hard surface. )
When in AWD (All Wheel Drive) the transfer case clutch is disengaged (which allows you to turn easily on hard surfaces), until the computer detects that the front and rear driveshafts are turning at different speeds. The computer then engages the transfer case clutch which locks the front and rear driveshafts together.
I thought that was how it worked but I couldn't remember for sure (it's an age thing you know), thanks for setting us straight and clarifying it for us.
 
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Originally Posted by madsonp
(it's an age thing you know),
I can relate to that!
 
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Old Apr 21, 2010 | 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by pdqford
I can relate to that!
Eh, what was that you said?
 
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I had a similar problem with my 1999 f150, ended up being the rear axles were worn out. So much so they had to use a crow bar and force the axles past the warn part where the bearings wore a 1/8 " groove.

I cannot say for sure that would be your problem, but a 6000 ish GVW on my f150 and carrying it at 5500 lbs for only 75,000 miles really burned me on buying another f150. Especially when the dealer mechanic told me that the rear axle was the same as the Mustang axle.
 
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