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Old Mar 30, 2010 | 10:58 PM
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Ignition Switch Parts Help

I have a 49 F1, I want to install this Switch, I think it's a 53 - 55
What parts do I still need to install it?
C&G has B9A- 11582 (BAAA-10852-1G) & B7C-11597A, is that all I need?

any help would be great, If some one has them good used...PM me
 
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Old Mar 31, 2010 | 02:08 AM
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Sigh, this is really hard to do on the internet.

Ok first you will need the outer bezel piece. It twists on to the front of the switch and holds it onto the dash.

Second, depending on which truck you are instaling it on, unit has a spacer that goes behind the dash to provide tension on the spring.

They don't make those spacers any more. So I made one. I believe it is a piece of 1" PVC pipe cut to 3/4 inch length exctly.

You insert the switch from behind the dash with spacer and spring very deliberately, insert the bezel from the front and twist.

Have fun!
 
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Old Mar 31, 2010 | 05:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Benijeep
I have a 49 F1, I want to install this Switch, I think it's a 53 - 55
What parts do I still need to install it?

C&G has B9A-11582-A (BAAA-10852-1G) & B7C-11597-A, is that all I need?
B9A11582A .. Cylinder w/keys (Motorcraft SW278) / AVAILABLE from Ford.

MSRP: $31.11 // FTE sponsor PARTSGUYED.COM price: $16.80.

Fits: 1952/59 Ford Passenger Cars / 1953/60 Trucks / 1955/60 Thunderbird.
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B7C11597A .. Ignition Switch Mounting Plate / (Not shown in pics) / Obsolete

Fits: 1957/60 Trucks. This part may/may not be necessary to install the switch in a 1949 truck.
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B5A11572A .. Ignition Switch (Motorcraft SW270) / AVAILABLE

MSRP: $41.22 // PARTSGUYED.COM price: $22.26.

Use w/B9A11582A cylinder w/keys.
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There are two different types of ignition bezels used with the B5A11572A switch.

B9S11580A .. INNER Ignition Switch Bezel / Obsolete
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There are FOUR different OUTER ignition switch bezels used w/the B5A11572A switch. It all depends on what vehicle the switch was installed in.

FAB11584A (1953/56 trucks, 1952/56 cars) / B7A11584A (1957 cars) / B7C11584A (1957/60 trucks) / B8A11584A (1958/60 cars).

Since this is a swap...which one will fit correctly? Maybe Julie knows.
 

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Old Mar 31, 2010 | 12:01 PM
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Thanks, I want to Install it on my 1949 F-1.
Just need to know which parts do I need to order them, or if any one has these parts good used, if any one has them PM me.
here is detail of my dash on the '49 F-1
you can see the empty hole and the new switch in place



again Thanks very much!
Ray
 
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Old Mar 31, 2010 | 12:15 PM
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OK here ya go:

You are right, it's a 53 (+/-) ignition switch. Here's a pic with part number of a new one:



They do make the spacer - here's a pic with part number:



And here is the bezel/retainer with part number:



These part numbers are from C&G Ford Parts and are probably common with Dennis Carpenter and MACs. Here's the link to C&G:

Ford Parts at C&G for 1932 thru 1979 Ford car and Ford truck.

The bezel actually is a bayonet type mount and push/twists into the switch. You need the spacer for spring tension. This is the set up I have on my 51, so, that should do it!
 
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Old Mar 31, 2010 | 12:56 PM
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"Gracias"

Thanks very Fast response!
 
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Old Mar 31, 2010 | 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Benijeep
"Gracias"

Thanks very Fast response!
Note post #3: The switch and the cylinder w/keys are still available from Ford and can be bought at discount prices from FTE sponsor PARTSGUYED.COM which is Horizon Ford in Tukwila WA (formerly known as Y2KFORDPARTS.COM).

There is no such Ford part number as BAAA-10852-1G. The correct part number for the bezel is FAB11584A / Obsolete
 
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Old Mar 31, 2010 | 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
Note post #3: The switch and the cylinder w/keys are still available from Ford and can be bought at discount prices from FTE sponsor PARTSGUYED.COM which is Horizon Ford in Tukwila WA (formerly known as Y2KFORDPARTS.COM).

There is no such Ford part number as BAAA-10852-1G. The correct part number for the bezel is FAB11584A / Obsolete
Probably very true. Those are the Part Numbers that C&G uses and lists the part under. The numbers are actually printed on their parts photo.

I think those are reproed and aren't genuine Ford - not sure. No matter really, now he has both Ford and C&G/Carpenter part numbers and he can buy from either. I just know that that combination is what worked on mine except they hadn't started making the spacers yet and I ended up using teh 1" PVC pipe cut to 3/4 inch long - worked perfect. And of course I got my parts at C&G, first because I like them/very helpful; and, second they are two miles up the road from me - makes life easy, saves on shipping!
 
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Old Mar 31, 2010 | 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Julies Cool F1
Probably very true. Those are the Part Numbers that C&G uses and lists the part under. The numbers are actually printed on their parts photo.

I think those are reproed and aren't genuine Ford - not sure. No matter really, now he has both Ford and C&G/Carpenter part numbers and he can buy from either. I just know that that combination is what worked on mine except they hadn't started making the spacers yet and I ended up using teh 1" PVC pipe cut to 3/4 inch long - worked perfect. And of course I got my parts at C&G, first because I like them/very helpful; and, second they are two miles up the road from me - makes life easy, saves on shipping!
I dunno about C&G, but...I would assume they and other repro parts sellers are doing the same thing as Dennis Carpenter has done for decades.

Carpenter is in-famous for inventing part numbers for reproduced parts.

Carpenter also lists the original part numbers in his catalogs as they appeared in specific Ford parts catalogs, even though Ford may have updated the part number once, twice, or lawd only knows how many times.

For example: B-1012 lug nut was updated to: B-1012-A, COAZ-1012-A, C9AZ-1012-A, E6DZ-1012-A and E8TZ-1012-B.

This means that the same lug nut that fits a little deuce coupe also fits your F1, F100, F150, Taurus and a gazillion other applications from 1932 thru 2002.

Since both the switch and the cylinder w/keys are still available from Ford, my guess is...that C&G is buying them from Homer Heller (or another dealer) at about the same discounted price that FTE sponsor PARTSGUYED.COM (Horizon Ford in WA) is selling them for.

Y'all may have noticed that when I usually list part numbers, I type them WITHOUT any spaces or hyphens. Like this for example: B5A11572A

The reason is: If you type the part numbers as they appear in parts catalogs (with spaces and/or hyphens) into online obsolete and Ford Dealer parts locator systems, you'll get messages like:

No Parts Found / Sorry, we do not carry the part at this time. / Or...nothing will show up.

btw: Muy importante! Numbers that appear on parts prior to 1957 are either the actual part number or an ID engineering number, or a casting number.

From 1957, only ID engineering numbers and/or csting numbers appear on parts, and usually are not even close to the actual part number.

ID engineering or casting numbers...will not work in any parts locator system.
 
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Old Jan 16, 2012 | 12:23 AM
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Note post #3: The switch and the cylinder w/keys are still available from Ford and can be bought at discount prices from FTE sponsor PARTSGUYED.COM which is Horizon Ford in Tukwila WA (formerly known as Y2KFORDPARTS.COM).

There is no such Ford part number as BAAA-10852-1G. The correct part number for the bezel is FAB11584A / Obsolete

Is that the correct bezel for a 1950 F-1? I did not see it on the C&G page. Thanks.
 
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Old Jan 17, 2012 | 07:06 AM
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Post #1: The OP was installing a newer switch in his 1949, so none of the Ford part numbers listed in posts 1 thru 9 apply to 1948/52's, including FAB-11584-A!

Dennis Carpenter (DC) has the 1948/50 truck ignition switch bezel (0A-11580) listed on page 57 of his 1948/56 Ford truck repro parts catalog (2011 paper version) @ $15.00.

This bezel is also the same as 1949/50 Ford Passenger Cars / Call DC @ 800-476-9653, order this catalog...it's free.
 
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Old Jan 17, 2012 | 01:11 PM
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Post #1: The OP was installing a newer switch in his 1949, so none of the Ford part numbers listed in posts 1 thru 9 apply to 1948/52's, including FAB-11584-A!

Dennis Carpenter (DC) has the 1948/50 truck ignition switch bezel (0A-11580) listed on page 57 of his 1948/56 Ford truck repro parts catalog (2011 paper version) @ $15.00.

This bezel is also the same as 1949/50 Ford Passenger Cars / Call DC @ 800-476-9653, order this catalog...it's free.
Thank you so much. I wish I had done this for dad while he was still alive. It's the only missing part on the truck & it drove him crazy. It's a stock 1950 F1 with the flat head 8. I like some of the resto mods I see driving around but I'll keep this one stock.
 
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