Ok now is this Mercon LV a Ford Motorcraft product, designed engineered and registered to Ford motor company?? Is it the same as SP? are the two compatible??

Has any oil company purchased the liscense for this product from Ford??

If theres a new LV fluid why was I sold SP fluid just last week from the local Ford dealership when I changed out a $ 25 TFT sensor that the dealership was going to charge $800 for including a wiring harness that was charged out on the quote? and a 6,2 hrs labor for a 1hr job?

Is the only way Ford can get this little temp sensor hooked to all the other wires that control this glorified E40D??

 

Here is a PDF copy of your maintenance guide, should the service department have any questions on what they are supposed to be doing.

http://www.motorcraftservice.com/pub.../08frdmg3e.pdf

As for the shop that said the 5R110W was a sealed unit that requires no maintenance......well, I'll hold my comment.

 

Glorified E4OD?

You seem to have issues with the 5R110W, which most of us find amazingly reliable, sturdy and capable.

Or, are you having a hard day and just need a hug?

 

subscribing, job1 with 29,900 miles here, can't trust the dealer techs here in chicago. Called selling dealer back at 500 miles when I wanted to change out the factory motor oil and he insisted it was good for 7500 even though truck had sat on the lot for nearly a year by the time I bought it. Wasnt in town near my service manual so asked about crankcase capacity and was told 4.5 quarts with the filter. I can only assume he was reading the displacement backwards (5.4). All of my ford buddies here avoid the dealerships like the plague. One of them has an 07 f250 that had a slight harmonic type vibration only when moving and the dealer replaced the transmission, after 3 weeks of having the truck. Needless to say the vibe is still there.
I'm also thinking about changing out the filter and whatever drains from the pan and then decreasing the interval to doing it again every 10k or so. Really isnt the 100 bucks worth of parts every 10,000 miles that bothers me, I really dont trust the dealerships to touch my truck. Glad I haven't had any warranty issues.

To Mark K, Is this a seriously flawed idea? Have read many of your posts and trust your expertise. The "at home" heated flush with the bucket scares the crap out of me.

 

I think he was thing 4.6L...5.4 even takes 6 qtrs.

 

Like I said, show them the service manual that came with the truck.

While 7500 is the "normal" service interval for oil, the manual also has the following statement for special maintenance while towing or carrying a camper.

Every 5,000 miles Rotate tires, inspect tires for wear and measure tread
depth

Inspect wheel ends for endplay and noise

Every 5,000 miles or 6 months Change engine oil and replace oil filter
Inspect and lubricate U-joints

Every 30,000 miles Change automatic transmission fluid

Replace wheel bearing grease and grease seals on
4x2 wheel bearings (if non-sealed bearings)

Every 60,000 miles Change transfer case fluid

As required Change manual transmission fluid

Inspect and lubricate U-joints

 

It was designed and engineered by Ford and at least one ATF manufacturer. That's how it has always worked in the auto industry. Either a transmission manufacturer works with an oil company to design a fluid or they just use one that's already on the shelf. To the best of my knowledge no automatic transmission manufacturer has ever designed and produced their own ATF.

No, it isn't the same as SP. The two are compatible.

None of the ATF manufacturers have notified me that they have licensed MERCON LV. At least one company is producing it for Ford, they have not informed me about selling it under their own brand.

 

Thanks for the info Mark,
Do you know what oil company is producing this oil for Ford?

As far as my comments about the torqshift tranny being a glorified E4OD

well thats how I see it and the E40D is a decent tranny in itself so its not really bashing it

Heres the situation for all of you torque shift owners

The 5R110w trans has these parts in it.

1 forward clutch
2 int clutch
3 direct clutch
4 O.D. cluch
5 Coast clutch
6 low/reverse clutch
7 O.D. Diode (overuning Clutch)
8 Low Diode (one way clutch)

All of these Elements are also found in the E4OD yet its only a 4sp??
and the torq**** is a 6sp?
Where did the extra two gears come from?

Well the answer is simple
1st gear ratio 3.09 apply overdrive clutch to 1st for a ratio of 2.20 for 2nd gear 3rd gear ratio1.54 apply overdrive for a ratio of 1.09 for 4 th gear 5th gear 1.00 and finally Od at 0.71

Use the over drive gear a splitter in a sense no new gears or parts nothing new and exciting just monkeyed with to have to use a special oil

I was actually disappointed to learn this I wanted to see something new in a tranny sadly all I get is new types of oil

 

I have never trusted the dealerships. I bought the $200.00 factory workshop manuals so I could do as much of the maintenance as possible by myself. But I'm wondering whether with as little towing that I do for right now whether I should change this filter (external) at 30,000 AND flush the trans or to just change the filter and then flush the trans at 60,000. It says in the workshop manual that most of the fluid that leaves the front cooler tube passes through the external filter and is directed into the cooling circuit. It goes on to say that a clogged external filter will by-pass, allowing 95% trans fluid flow. So I don't know whether this just needs changed at 30,000 then flushed at 60,000 or if it should be flushed at 30,000. Mark K? Getting so many different answers from the different dealerships just goes to show how little they REALLY know about the vehicles they sell.

 

just wtf are you getting at? the e40d was produced in like 1975........torqshift in 03.......

 

Exactly!! A transmission designed in 03 that has nothing new in it than the E4OD that was designed in the late 80's 1975 was still the C-6 days

As for the special fluid, I have read that there are shift kits available to adapt these units to work on any sort of fluid. Does anyone know how this is done?

I have a sneeking suspicion that the solenoid filter screens are altered in some fashion, to allow thicker fluid to pass thru at the same rate as the motorcrap SP or LV

This is done on other trannys by simply drilling small holes in the screen. Which you might think defeats the whole purpose of the screen. However solenoids can pass thru small pieces whereas these small pieces will become trapped in the filter suck it shut and restrict flow, and then the tranny burns up, So yep the aftermarket fix is to drill holes in the filter, but as crasy as that is it works.!!