Smogging required?
FTE Leadership Emeritus
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From: Stephensville WI
Back in the mid 70's my family purchased a 3/4 ton Chevy passenger van for a grocery getter/occasional tow vehicle because it used regular (leaded) fuel and had almost no smog equipment. The 1/2 ton vans and trucks back then used unleaded fuel, had air pumps, catalytic converters and ran like crap..
Posting Guru
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From: Rogue River, Oregon
Up until the late '80's you could buy either leaded or unleaded at the pump and lots of people screwed up their cats running leaded gas through cars intended to run unleaded. Then they eliminated the lead and everyone I knew was terrified their older hot rods would be killed by unleaded. As it turns out it didn't make a whole lot of difference since there was soo little lead left anyway that nobody noticed.
Lead Driver
Joined: Dec 2006
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From: San Diego, CA
. If it ends up affecting the private sector, then I will end up paying for it by killing what little power I have with all that garbage...or buy a new truck that already has that garbage on it 
.Gas and diesels have their emissions regulations, but I think a lot of the specific requirments are based on the GVWR.
Posting Guru
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From: Canton, IL
Gasoline does not produce the particulate that diesels do. That is the main choke point on the all the new EPA regulations. All the aftertreatment devices are designed to lower particulate emissions either by trapping them, or burning them (turning into a gas) or both (urea and regen cycles).
Postmaster
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From: CA Bay Area
Yeah. The particulate from diesel is the stuff you can see and feel, while the poisons emitted from gas engine will kill you before you feel anything.
Just consider one thing. Gas engines emission is so danger to human that government felt necessary to monitor the poisons back in 1965. It took them 45 more years before they started to worry about diesel emission.
Just consider one thing. Gas engines emission is so danger to human that government felt necessary to monitor the poisons back in 1965. It took them 45 more years before they started to worry about diesel emission.
Posting Guru
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From: muskegon mi.
yes yes hooray michigan it gets cold and the roads suck but they leave are cars alone
Reads ***** rules!
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From: So.Ca./ N.E. UT
There is a post somewhere in here that has the link to the inspection schedule. Sounds like someone needs to start making some "non-catalyst" stickers and sell them on Ebay!
Found the link........
http://www.bar.ca.gov/80_BARResource...eduresVer5.pdf
Found the link........
http://www.bar.ca.gov/80_BARResource...eduresVer5.pdf
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Mountain Pass
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From: SoCal
Not to my knowledge. As far as I know, no car made before 1973 needs to have ANY smog devices at all. That means that if you want to run a blown 426 Hemi in your '69 Charger, you can do so legally. As long as your car is a genuine pre-1973 vehicle (as in not a reproduction) then it's run-whatcha-brung. Various fringe groups have tried to get this law changed, but so far they have been unsuccessful since even ignorant lawmakers realize the extremely limited use of these cars compared to a modern car.
Posting Guru
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From: PA
I do prefer to have cleaner emissions, but i am NOT willing to sacrifice power and economy for it. Here in PA, if its 74 or older, not emissions test what so ever. Regulations vary on a county basis with Philadelphia being the most stringent, and Pittsburgh not far behind. I actually am a certified emissions inspector in PA.
Fleet Mechanic
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From: Central Ohio
Originally Posted by 99powerstrokedF250
Hooray Michigan and no smog testing!! I pull cats and resonators on pretty much everything I own - I get better mileage and a bit more power. I love it. Other states can BITE ME.
Hooray Michigan and no smog testing!! I pull cats and resonators on pretty much everything I own - I get better mileage and a bit more power. I love it. Other states can BITE ME.
