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Old Nov 1, 2002 | 02:41 AM
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I went down to my local police station here in Idaho on my 21st birthday. It was about 30 dollars to get your fingerprints taken. They were checked locally and also run through a FBI check. Each county here in Idaho has the descretion of making you take a class or not. However, you can go to any county to apply. I did not take a class. THey also have a maximum of 90 days to accept or deny your application. It is good for 4 years. Mine is coming up for renewal in December and will be $30 something. I have only been pulled over once with my pistol in my truck. I gave the officer my DL and CWP and he just had me place my pistol on the dashboard. They are much more comfortable if you tell them, as it comes back on your report when they check your liscense, so it is just easier to tell them first.
 
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Old Nov 1, 2002 | 09:40 AM
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man,

you guys got it tough, All I did was pay the sheriff 8 dollars (may have been 15), compared my drivers license, and I was out the door with a temporary permit in less than 15 min. I got my laminated official one in 2 weeks. No classes no nothing.

But don't get me wrong, Here in South Dakota, You have to take a Hunters Safety course when you are a youth Before you can obtian hunting license.

But I also think that it's a good idea to have the classes as a prerequiste for a permit.

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Old Nov 1, 2002 | 04:42 PM
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Geeze, from what I've read here and what I've heard talking to other folks, it seems it is more expencive to get a CHL in Texas than any other state. Something about that just dont seem right.
 
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Old Nov 2, 2002 | 03:59 PM
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I'm in Michigan, and I think our new CCW laws are no friend of the citizen. My father and I read through the whole CCW act ( it is two inches thick ! ). It does have the 'shall issue' language in it, but it also has a bunch of bad stuff. Suppose you are traveling somewhere and you get a speeding ticket. And your pistol is safe and snug at home. You can still lose you firearm. It can be confiscated by the state for almost any reason. A jaywlking ticket would be enough. Methinks the Michigan CCW is a confiscation scheme dressed up to look as though it is helpful to gun owners. I'm not sure I understand the fascination with concealed carry anyway. Why not have those who choose to carry, carry out in plain sight ? When was the last time you heard of a soldier or a police officer as the victim of street crime ? Or home invasion ? Criminals don't try, because they know that they will face resistance. To me, it seems simple- more citizens carrying openly would mean less crime. Is this really such a scary idea ? I think our legislators and Police departments WANT us to be defenseless. It would seem that our depending on them for our security gives them something to do. I think citizens ought to take that responsibility back upon themselves. More research on open carry laws would seem to be in order. What does your state say ? Many Michigan lawmakers and police officers were opposed to the new CCW permits- they predicted a massive amount of bloodshed from permit holders shooting each other and others. It didn't happen that way. Could it just be that citizens, for the most part, are very capable of looking out for themselves ? We might have less for officers to do, might have to lay some of them off, I think that is what they fear most. DF
 
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Old Nov 3, 2002 | 03:27 AM
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> I'm in Michigan, and I think our new CCW laws are no friend
>of the citizen. My father and I read through the whole CCW
>act ( it is two inches thick ! ). It does have the 'shall
>issue' language in it, but it also has a bunch of bad stuff.
>Suppose you are traveling somewhere and you get a speeding
>ticket. And your pistol is safe and snug at home. You can
>still lose you firearm. It can be confiscated by the state
>for almost any reason. A jaywlking ticket would be enough.
>Methinks the Michigan CCW is a confiscation scheme dressed
>up to look as though it is helpful to gun owners.

Humm......as interesting way to look at if DF. It sure looks unfriendly to me to. Not sure what all the rules are out here in good ole' Kali, as I haven't applied for a CCW, but if those rules apply here too then forget it. It seems they treat a law abiding citizen who happens to hold a CCW unfairly if they should ever cross the street between two stop signs. Makes you wonder doesn't it.

Cop: "You were jaywalking. Do you have a CCW permit"?
Citizen #1: "No officer I don't".
Cop: "I'm gonna let you off with a warning. On your way then."

Cop: "You were jaywalking. Do you have a CCW permit"?
Citizen #2: "Yes I do officer, here it is".
Cop: "Ummm....I'm gonna have to issue you a citation for jaywalking. The law is the law". After which citizen #2 has to come in and pay his fine and surrender his CCW permit along with his handgun.

>We might have less for officers to do, might have to lay
>some of them off, I think that is what they fear most. DF

Could be, but more likely what they fear most is an armed populous who can fight back. "They" being those who hold a higher office and are against the 2nd amendment among other things. The rank and file police officer on the beat might not feel that way, but those in power who are corrupted by it and want to hold on to it, they are the ones who fear us IMO. Not just because we are armed but because for the most part we vote too. Those who want to disarm the people want us to be dependent upon them. Then they have complete control and the power to do as they wish. After the 2nd goes, the rest will go down too.


 
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Old Nov 3, 2002 | 01:38 PM
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>I'm sure that's the case any where else.
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>super

Nope. In Louisiana, your private vehicle is an extension of your home for some legal purposes, including the definition of "concealed weapon". No weapon in your home is considered "concealed", so NO weapon in YOUR vehicle is "concealed".
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You can have any legal weapon anywhere in your vehicle, including tucked under your shirt, loaded, cocked, whatever.:P


That same interpretation applies to consumption of alcohol...
:-staun :-staun :-staun :-staun
...as long as you're not INTOXICATED. As long as you show no signs of being drunk, and you're not in a LOCAL jurisdiction that regulates it, you CAN drink while driving (technically ). Of course, it's like waving meat in front of a wolf if a cop sees you, because it's up to HIM to decide if you're "speeding & weaving".
 
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