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Old Mar 6, 2010 | 04:14 AM
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excursion tires for winter

Anyone run studded tires or studdless ice tires on their excursion? looking to see what a good performance tire for ice and snow is on these excursions since they are so heavy.
 
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Old Mar 6, 2010 | 06:18 AM
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Do not buy goodyear Silent armors if you have snow....I swear i could get stuck on a 1 degree incline with 2 inches of snow....Cant run studs here in michigan, hopefully somoene will chime in...I would say ice is tough to have a good tire on, you want lots of surface area to grip with what little traction you can get, for snow, you want larger lugs to clear the snow out and bite. Its kind of a opposite thing, you want bigger lug tread for the snow, but it hurts on ice....
 
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Old Mar 6, 2010 | 07:28 AM
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I've had good luck with studded General Arctic Alpins in stock size, load range E. These are based on a design from Gislaved.

They are handling Vermont winter quiet well.
 
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Old Mar 6, 2010 | 08:39 AM
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I'm with you on the studded tires, nothing better in the ice, Many AT and MT tires are pinned for studs...
 
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Old Mar 6, 2010 | 03:13 PM
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i'm running 235/85 16 BFG goodrich "trac edge" that are double studded. they work pretty well but next year i'll be going with cooper discoverer M+S studded or studless blizzaks.

 
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Old Mar 6, 2010 | 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Hollywood703
Do not buy goodyear Silent armors if you have snow....I swear i could get stuck on a 1 degree incline with 2 inches of snow
I have the opposite experience

4) Goodyear Wrangler Silent Armor LT265/75R-16 Range E aired to 50/55 lbs

They are awesome in snow.

A stranger in the next town was nice enough to give me an opportunity to test their wet braking performance. Excellent! So I didn't have to get that nice chap's name & address. Or crush his Jap ****box.

Hollywood, what pressure do you run? Same size?

Gotta love the internet.
 
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Old Mar 6, 2010 | 07:27 PM
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I have run Mastercraft Courser MSR's all winter, they have worked great. Hardly needed to use 4wd. Was able to get out my badly snowed in driveway (3' + drifts) this last snowstorm. Stock size on some steel superduty rims 55psi. Mastercraft Tires - Courser MSR -
 
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Old Mar 6, 2010 | 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by b-uno
Anyone run studded tires or studdless ice tires on their excursion? looking to see what a good performance tire for ice and snow is on these excursions since they are so heavy.
I run Bridgestone Dueler A/T Revos year round. 6 months a year in snow and ice. I've had them for 5 Alaska winters and with 4x4 I've never had a problem...with one exception. Sheet of ice, trying to stop going downhill and couldn't. Studs would not have helped. Luckily the drivers with the right of way saw me coming and let me slide through.

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Old Mar 6, 2010 | 08:30 PM
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the wrangler silent armors that are on it now seem to be doing really good, but its not to icy around anchorage today.. im thinking them blizzacks might be somthing to try, or just getting some more studded tires. im not really sure.. price will probaly be the deciding factor.. we probably will end up just running the dang wranglers on it tell next winter.
 
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Old Mar 6, 2010 | 10:36 PM
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I'am in the eastern sierra's and I use Bridgestone Blizzacks they are studless snow/ice tires, In the mountain roads and curves I have yet to loose traction on the roads in 4x4 even in two wheel drive I still have more control than most. Beats the heck out of putting on chains. Being from MIchigan orginally I know winter. These are some great tires. Of course studded tires are going to give you more, but when the snow cover is intermittent you can drive these to the store or where ever during the winter season and no worries, studded tires you might have to think about that and worry about loosing or having a stud push through
 
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Not on the Ex, but we have a set of Green Diamond Tire on our Escape. Excellent snow tires.

They do make E's sized for the Ex.
 
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Old Mar 7, 2010 | 01:12 AM
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Tires like the Blizzaks are multi sipped so there are many many "cuts" in the tread which "fold over" when you hit the brakes so the many ridges expose their edges which "grab" the road better because they each "dig in". I use studded mud type tires because we can in CA and I use it for offroading and loose snow also. Getting back to the Blizzaks; they are probably better on the ice than my tires but they are not good for loose snow or mud. My tires without studs wouldn't hold a candle to the multi-sipped type tires on the ice with more road contact and the many ridges.
 
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Originally Posted by tow0369
I'am in the eastern sierra's and I use Bridgestone Blizzacks they are studless snow/ice tires, In the mountain roads and curves I have yet to loose traction on the roads in 4x4 even in two wheel drive I still have more control than most. Beats the heck out of putting on chains. Being from MIchigan orginally I know winter. These are some great tires. Of course studded tires are going to give you more, but when the snow cover is intermittent you can drive these to the store or where ever during the winter season and no worries, studded tires you might have to think about that and worry about loosing or having a stud push through

i've run studs for years and alot of time on dry pavment in the fall and late spring before they are removed for summer wheels/tires...the only worry on dry pavment with studs is wearing them down..this fall i put mine on in september and ended up going alittle over a month on dry ground before the snow stuck to the roads. majority of the people up here run them all winter w/no issues.

blizzaks are amazing, we have them on our 300C AWD and '04 F-150 4x4 since our roads here where the OP is from are mainly ice covered since we dont use salt and little gravel from october/march they are a great choice as they are amazing on ice.

the cooper discoverer M+S has many sipes like the blizzak and is soft but not as soft as the blizzak. but the other thing is its studdable and offers great traction i own a few sets on my other trucks for winter.
 
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Old Mar 7, 2010 | 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by howler4x4
I have the opposite experience

4) Goodyear Wrangler Silent Armor LT265/75R-16 Range E aired to 50/55 lbs

They are awesome in snow.

A stranger in the next town was nice enough to give me an opportunity to test their wet braking performance. Excellent! So I didn't have to get that nice chap's name & address. Or crush his Jap ****box.

Hollywood, what pressure do you run? Same size?

Gotta love the internet.
Have 285's, but the tire pressure tried from 50 to 80 with no difference other than ride. I also only am expecting to get total of about 23k out of them for tread. They arent as Quiet as claimed to be. I wouldnt buy another set if they were 75% off. They might be good in 2" but in the 8-12 we normall get they just sit and spin....no bite whatsoever.
 
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Old Mar 7, 2010 | 10:29 AM
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Mine were brandy new, prolly still had the nibs on 'em when it snowed here. 2" - no problem in 2WD, 6" no prob in 4WD.

Hope i get better life than 23k.
 
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