Mirror Replacement
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Tuned
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Mirror Replacement
OK. This is driving me out of my mind. 4 weeks into my 04 350 DRW. The mirrors that the previous owner had on here are the most useless things I have ever seen in my life. The truck came with the small non-power mirrors from Ford.. I can't even see past the damned fenders.
I am considering these Amazon.com: 01 02 03 04 05 Ford Super Duty Power Tow Mirror Kit: Automotive I have 2 concerns.
1: I do NOT have power mirrors in the truck now. Does anyone know if there is power in the door I can tap into? This is a basic XL No PW/PL/PM lol Hell I don't even have a carpet.
2: Has anyone bought these, or other aftermarket replacements? If so, what do you think?
G
I am considering these Amazon.com: 01 02 03 04 05 Ford Super Duty Power Tow Mirror Kit: Automotive I have 2 concerns.
1: I do NOT have power mirrors in the truck now. Does anyone know if there is power in the door I can tap into? This is a basic XL No PW/PL/PM lol Hell I don't even have a carpet.
2: Has anyone bought these, or other aftermarket replacements? If so, what do you think?
G
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I don't think it matters if you don't have any other power features, as you will need the switch to control the mirrors too, and power goes THERE first.
there are a couple posts here a while back with folks installing power tow mirrors, mostly the bigger 08 version.. search should find them. You need a bunch of wires, and to keep it small and easy to maneuver some have used a trailer light wire kit, as there are 4 wires bound together in the bundle, and 20 bucks gets you 20 ft of that wire.
the way the mirror motors work is the same as for windows, 2 wires.. 1 ground, 1 power.. then they reverse the signals ground becomes power, power becomes ground to go the opposite direction (reduces the total number of wires needed).
so you need 2 for up & down, 2 for in & out rotation, and 2 for extend/retract
oh, and lights, and heated if you like/need that function too.
(my 08's have all that).
Sam
there are a couple posts here a while back with folks installing power tow mirrors, mostly the bigger 08 version.. search should find them. You need a bunch of wires, and to keep it small and easy to maneuver some have used a trailer light wire kit, as there are 4 wires bound together in the bundle, and 20 bucks gets you 20 ft of that wire.
the way the mirror motors work is the same as for windows, 2 wires.. 1 ground, 1 power.. then they reverse the signals ground becomes power, power becomes ground to go the opposite direction (reduces the total number of wires needed).
so you need 2 for up & down, 2 for in & out rotation, and 2 for extend/retract
oh, and lights, and heated if you like/need that function too.
(my 08's have all that).
Sam
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Some other guys with what they did.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...-all-done.html
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/5...oday-pics.html
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...-all-done.html
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/5...oday-pics.html
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I don't think it matters if you don't have any other power features, as you will need the switch to control the mirrors too, and power goes THERE first.
there are a couple posts here a while back with folks installing power tow mirrors, mostly the bigger 08 version.. search should find them. You need a bunch of wires, and to keep it small and easy to maneuver some have used a trailer light wire kit, as there are 4 wires bound together in the bundle, and 20 bucks gets you 20 ft of that wire.
the way the mirror motors work is the same as for windows, 2 wires.. 1 ground, 1 power.. then they reverse the signals ground becomes power, power becomes ground to go the opposite direction (reduces the total number of wires needed).
so you need 2 for up & down, 2 for in & out rotation, and 2 for extend/retract
oh, and lights, and heated if you like/need that function too.
(my 08's have all that).
Sam
there are a couple posts here a while back with folks installing power tow mirrors, mostly the bigger 08 version.. search should find them. You need a bunch of wires, and to keep it small and easy to maneuver some have used a trailer light wire kit, as there are 4 wires bound together in the bundle, and 20 bucks gets you 20 ft of that wire.
the way the mirror motors work is the same as for windows, 2 wires.. 1 ground, 1 power.. then they reverse the signals ground becomes power, power becomes ground to go the opposite direction (reduces the total number of wires needed).
so you need 2 for up & down, 2 for in & out rotation, and 2 for extend/retract
oh, and lights, and heated if you like/need that function too.
(my 08's have all that).
Sam
What I was thinking of doing is get a switch out of the junkyard. or buying whatever switch I can find and mounting it to the door.
Here is my biggest problem..
I am color blind, so it's always a challenge to do this. If someone who has added power mirrors to an SD that did not have them before would like to jump in, it would be most appreciated. I am assuming that if I run a hot lead to the switch / switches on the door then use 4 wire harnesses to the mirrors individually I should be OK. But I am not positive. I also have questions about adding the directionals to the mirrors.
Thanks
Glenn
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What I was thinking of doing is get a switch out of the junkyard. or buying whatever switch I can find and mounting it to the door.
Here is my biggest problem.. I am color blind, so it's always a challenge to do this. If someone who has added power mirrors to an SD that did not have them before would like to jump in, it would be most appreciated.
I am assuming that if I run a hot lead to the switch / switches on the door then use 4 wire harnesses to the mirrors individually I should be OK. But I am not positive. I also have questions about adding the directionals to the mirrors.
Thanks
Glenn
Here is my biggest problem..
I am color blind, so it's always a challenge to do this. If someone who has added power mirrors to an SD that did not have them before would like to jump in, it would be most appreciated. I am assuming that if I run a hot lead to the switch / switches on the door then use 4 wire harnesses to the mirrors individually I should be OK. But I am not positive. I also have questions about adding the directionals to the mirrors.
Thanks
Glenn
4 wires won't be enough tho.. need 2 for each direction.. up/down is 2, rotate is 2, extend/retract is 2, fold is 2, and blinker/parking is 2, and a solid ground.
Sam
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If you have an XL trim pickup without power windows, you will need to get a mirror switch from the junkyard (It doesn't have to be from a Superduty, since Ford used the same switch on many models, but the Superduty harness/connector will make it easier to match the wires/colors/terminals), and you may be better off to cut a hole in the trim plate ahead of the door handle and glue the switch in from the bottom. The reason I suggest this is that power mirrors were not offered without power windows. To install that setup, you will need to change the door panels, too.
When I installed power mirrors on my '01 XL, I was adding power windows and power door locks as well. I changed door panels and made up a new harness using salvaged junkyard harnesses inside the doors.
I hooked my power mirrors to the light green/yellow wire from connector C 218 by your right knee with the fuse panel cover under the steering column removed. That wire is fed by fuse #4 in the under-dash fuse panel, same source as stock mirrors. I used 18 gauge wire.
I found that I had to pull the parking brake loose (but not off) to get enough room to fish the wires out through the driver's doorpost.
When I installed power mirrors on my '01 XL, I was adding power windows and power door locks as well. I changed door panels and made up a new harness using salvaged junkyard harnesses inside the doors.
I hooked my power mirrors to the light green/yellow wire from connector C 218 by your right knee with the fuse panel cover under the steering column removed. That wire is fed by fuse #4 in the under-dash fuse panel, same source as stock mirrors. I used 18 gauge wire.
I found that I had to pull the parking brake loose (but not off) to get enough room to fish the wires out through the driver's doorpost.
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