Finger on the trigger....
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Finger on the trigger....
I posted this in another thread:
Ford did impress me, a lot. This is a really hard decision. I drove a 2012 Ford F-150 S-cab/long bed 4x4 with the 5.0L. It doesn't have quite as much raw power as the Hemi powered Ram, most noticeable when passing on the highway BUT its got a s-cab/long bed combination which Dodge doesn't make. However the Dodge seats 6 and the inside is pretty nice as well. I also found a dealer with some 2011 Nissan Xterra Pro-4X's left. If you know anything about Nissans, that's their equivalent of Jeep's Rubicon, their top line off roader with locking axles, etc. If I went with the Xterra I'd have to buy a trailer, but obviously plenty of room inside and with the plastic rear storage area no problem throwing a chainsaw and gas in the back. The Xterra is also the noisiest, least powerful, and most nervous on the highway with crosswinds thanks to its softer off road suspension, but its undeniably friggin' cool and a beast when the black top ends.
Here's my top 3, and prices from the dealerships for any of them range from $27,600 to $27,376, so not much spread. All are 4x4s. I don't think I have any of the dealers' "final price" yet. No trade in to muddy the waters, either.
2012 Ford F-150 S-cab long bed XLT with the 5.0. (MSRP is $39,000, its the most off sticker by far)
2012 Dodge 1500 S-cab regular bed "Express" with the 5.7. (MSRP is about $30,000, least off sticker so far)
2011 Nissan Xterra Pro-4X with leather and ipod interface (basically the only options left to get on a Pro-4X) (MSRP is 32,000)
My cup runneth over, not a loser in the bunch. I'm going back to Ford tomorrow, if he sweetens the price too much more, the temptation may be more than I can bare...
Test drove the competition today. I hopped in a Dodge 1500 Express and really really wanted to not like it. Unfortunately, it was AWESOME.
The Hemi really steps out, the truck looks nice, and the interior is a big step up over previous Dodge's I've looked at.
I also WANTED to test drive an F-150 but I went to Shady McShaderson's Dealership of Shadiness. I walked out without driving anything because they kept trying to get me in the office and walked me all over the lot looking for a non-existent truck.
I'm going to try another dealership later in the week. C'mon Ford, impress me!
The Hemi really steps out, the truck looks nice, and the interior is a big step up over previous Dodge's I've looked at.
I also WANTED to test drive an F-150 but I went to Shady McShaderson's Dealership of Shadiness. I walked out without driving anything because they kept trying to get me in the office and walked me all over the lot looking for a non-existent truck.
I'm going to try another dealership later in the week. C'mon Ford, impress me!
Here's my top 3, and prices from the dealerships for any of them range from $27,600 to $27,376, so not much spread. All are 4x4s. I don't think I have any of the dealers' "final price" yet. No trade in to muddy the waters, either.
2012 Ford F-150 S-cab long bed XLT with the 5.0. (MSRP is $39,000, its the most off sticker by far)
2012 Dodge 1500 S-cab regular bed "Express" with the 5.7. (MSRP is about $30,000, least off sticker so far)
2011 Nissan Xterra Pro-4X with leather and ipod interface (basically the only options left to get on a Pro-4X) (MSRP is 32,000)
My cup runneth over, not a loser in the bunch. I'm going back to Ford tomorrow, if he sweetens the price too much more, the temptation may be more than I can bare...
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Be sure what gears are being run as that would effect the acceleration I think Dodge offers 3.55 and 3.92 in the 1500's.
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Yeah, I drove the eco-boost. Plenty quick, but the 5.0 is probably the way I'll go with the Ford. Unfortunately the dealer wants to play games and the price when up about $5k today over the phone conversation last night. I hate dealers in the city, bunch of thieves, thugs, and *****s. Reminded me of one of the reasons why I drive old junk.
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The Xterra isn't the same as the trucks, but with a trailer it can accomplish what I need. General rural land clean up duties, brush and trees and what not. Occasionally dimensional lumber. Riding mower, weedeater, garden tiller. That sort of stuff. My rural land is about 90 miles away from my primary residence, so highway performance is important as well.
Yeah, I drove the eco-boost. Plenty quick, but the 5.0 is probably the way I'll go with the Ford. Unfortunately the dealer wants to play games and the price when up about $5k today over the phone conversation last night. I hate dealers in the city, bunch of thieves, thugs, and *****s. Reminded me of one of the reasons why I drive old junk.
Yeah, I drove the eco-boost. Plenty quick, but the 5.0 is probably the way I'll go with the Ford. Unfortunately the dealer wants to play games and the price when up about $5k today over the phone conversation last night. I hate dealers in the city, bunch of thieves, thugs, and *****s. Reminded me of one of the reasons why I drive old junk.
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I you would be able to put the equipment in the back of the truck that would be the cheapest way to go without the need for the extra expense of buying a trailer. The Express package gives the Dodge a more sporty look for sure. Which one of them felt like something you could see yourself driving everyday?
There's no loser in the group. I'd be happy with any of them, although frankly none are that exciting to me either. Don't get me wrong, they are very, very nice and the improvement in power, brakes, noise, ride quality, etc is astronomical compared to my truck...but I still like driving my '78 and just can't justify how much money new vehicles are. Plus yesterday I was moving tenants out of a house so they'd be out on time (NEVER become a landlord) and scratched the bed of my truck. I immediately realized I would be extremely upset if that happened to a new vehicle I'd just dropped a bazillionity dollars on. I guess I'm not new truck material, I can either use it or keep it nice but I can't do both and that would bother me.
I'm in no hurry. I don't have a payment now and I've got plenty of vehicles to get me around. I'll find something eventually.
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Put a deposit down on a Dodge today. This one, actually: New 2012 Ram 1500 Express For Sale in Indianapolis IN | 1C6RD7FT9CS171061
Reasons I picked this over the Fords:
1) Its painted right.
2) Its about $3500 cheaper than anything I could get from the Ford dealers with close to the same option package and a 5.0, even more for an ECO.
3) Real doors on the back instead of the clam-shell doors that require the front doors to be opened first.
4) Hemi. Its amazingly powerful.
Things I liked about the Ford more:
1) S-cab/long bed combination available. (But not with STX package...)
2) Digital display was neat.
3) Tailgate step
Toss up:
1) Interior "niceness". Both are nice looking trucks inside.
2) Noise and vibration are minimal, very car-like. Both are extremely comfy.
2) Exterior look. I liked them both quite a bit.
The Dodge was just a bit nicer, a bit more fun to drive, and cheaper. Plus its painted on the roof....
Reasons I picked this over the Fords:
1) Its painted right.
2) Its about $3500 cheaper than anything I could get from the Ford dealers with close to the same option package and a 5.0, even more for an ECO.
3) Real doors on the back instead of the clam-shell doors that require the front doors to be opened first.
4) Hemi. Its amazingly powerful.
Things I liked about the Ford more:
1) S-cab/long bed combination available. (But not with STX package...)
2) Digital display was neat.
3) Tailgate step
Toss up:
1) Interior "niceness". Both are nice looking trucks inside.
2) Noise and vibration are minimal, very car-like. Both are extremely comfy.
2) Exterior look. I liked them both quite a bit.
The Dodge was just a bit nicer, a bit more fun to drive, and cheaper. Plus its painted on the roof....
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He lied. "Misunderstanding" between salesman and manager meant $4500 in rebates got counted twice. The real price was just over $31k plus he wanted to give me $3500 for a bike I sold to a motorcycle dealership for $5700 two days later.
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