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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by 86F150302
Since when are glasspacks deep and loud?

They are loud but in a raspy/crackling/popping kinda way.

I had true dual glasspacks on my 86 for a while before redoing the exhaust.
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Now is that with or without cats cause i have cats and a cherry bomb glass pack and it doesn't sound that raspy and doesn't have the popping, it has a more deep throaty sound to it.

Kyle
 
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by worstenemy453
I thought glasspack sound depended on length, a longer one is deeper/quieter and a shorter one is louder/higher pitched.
Ya I got the longest ones they had, sounds like a muscle car and dosent pop or crackle in any kind of way.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by lew52
to reduce back pressure after the headers use like 2 1/2 on duels or 3in on single
Would this be the same for 302s and 351s?
 
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by lew52
Back pressure is what you don't want , thats why when you open up your exhaust it makes more low end TQ and all around better power . But header tube size & exhaust size will make a difference , 1 1/2 primary long tubes work good , when the exhaust comes out of the motor its hot & the exhaust flows faster thru the smaller pipe because it stays hotter ,causing a scavenging efect , sucks the exhaust out of the motor faster , to reduce back pressure after the headers use like 2 1/2 on duels or 3in on single , the exhaust stacks up at the muffler so you can step up to a bigger size muffler & tail pipe to elimenate back pressure at the muffler......Lew
If the exhaust pipe is too large, you will get reduced flow velocity of the exhaust gasses. The flow velocity of the exhaust gasses assists with the scavenging of the spent exhaust gasses as well as the amount of air/fuel mixture that can be drawn into the combustion chamber on the next intake stroke. This is because the flow velocity of the exhaust creates a low pressure immediately behind it that sucks more gasses out of the combustion chamber. The trick is thus to get the back pressure just right.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 01:08 PM
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Yep exhaust pipe size makes a difference , depending on what you want from the motor , say you have a motor that is a high rever & you dont need the low end , bigger tube headers & exhaust will help , for more low end smaller tube headers & smaller exhaust . So it takes some research to find what you want , and what you want out of the truck ....Lew
 
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by skyfox10
Would this be the same for 302s and 351s?
...Yeah this about the norm for SBFs....
 
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 01:35 PM
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OK so I am in the middle of a tow rig project and have to redo all the exhaust... what would be the right setup for me??? 351w SD with new comp cam (35-255-5) and totally rebuilt. I obviously want more flow but don't want to over do it. I am planning on hooker headers with 1.5 inlet and 2.5 collectors (found them on craigslist cheap). I am debating whether to do an x-pipe or X-pipe muffler, probably eliminating the cat. Just don't know what I want from headers back. True dual 2.5in all the way... Also as for the mufflers go I want a little rumbel but not much since I am probably dumping right in front of rear wheels. Anyone what to make suggestions??? I was thinking 2 cheaper mufflers would be easier and might be cheaper to run instead of having to buy a $100 muffler...
 
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 01:42 PM
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The headers sound fine , 2 1/2 for duels should be good , H or X pipes for duels will help , if you can elimanate the cat thats good , mufflers are your choice , i like the super 44s....Lew
 
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 01:43 PM
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Here's a question. Is it not so much the backpressure, as keeping the pipe not to big? so, let's say I had 2" duals, with no cats or muffler to make more backpressure. The smaller pipe would give more velocity, which is where scavenging comes from.

So would that above setup make more low end torque then 3" duals with more restrictive mufflers?

Just trying to clear up the difference between smaller pipes for velocity and actaull backpressure.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by lew52
The headers sound fine , 2 1/2 for duels should be good , H or X pipes for duels will help , if you can elimanate the cat thats good , mufflers are your choice , i like the super 44s....Lew
YEah I have heard some super 44s on youtube and like them alot too but the exhaust is going in a beat up old 88 F-250 Budget Truck so i was looking for the good sound with economical price... $70x2 mufflers is a little high for this ol' girl... you are right though lew I love those mufflers...
 
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by skyfox10
Here's a question. Is it not so much the backpressure, as keeping the pipe not to big? so, let's say I had 2" duals, with no cats or muffler to make more backpressure. The smaller pipe would give more velocity, which is where scavenging comes from.

So would that above setup make more low end torque then 3" duals with more restrictive mufflers?

Just trying to clear up the difference between smaller pipes for velocity and actaull backpressure.
....Im not an exhaust expert but i did alot of reasearch when i did the exhaust on my truck , Yeah if you want low end TQ the smaller tube headers are good , long tubes , 2 1/2 is good for duels all the way , i think 2 1/2 on a mild motor wound be better than 3 in
 
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 07:13 PM
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Now is that with or without cats cause i have cats and a cherry bomb glass pack and it doesn't sound that raspy and doesn't have the popping, it has a more deep throaty sound to it.

Kyle
No cats. 2.25" true duals.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 86F150302
No cats. 2.25" true duals.
That's why it had the raspy crackle sound to it not enough back pressure, same problem i had with mine before when it was just the cats and no muffler.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 07:36 PM
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It sounds to me like that because of the pipe size, I'm wondering if expanding the pipes wouldn't take away some of that pop and let it resonate more.
 
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Old Feb 18, 2010 | 05:29 AM
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That 86 sounds that way because it doesn't have cats and has shorter glasspacks.

For duals 2.25 is not too small and is not why its crackling and popping. Thats just the nature of short glass packs. It almost sounds like they are blown out packs.
 
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