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Old Feb 11, 2010 | 04:24 PM
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Hello everyone here`s my problem hope someone can help.The wife took the truck to work last week(yep its been down a week)and it was about 15 deg outside when she started the truck and took off for home.Will the truck did not make it home what she said it did was lost speed and died.So i had it towed home,ive replaced the cps with a new ford one the tack does move some when i try to start it, but all it does is crank,no start!took the tunner out still no start,fuel pump comes on,glow plugs come on and work.So i checked the hpop reservoir and had to add a quart of oil.Than i tried to start it again all it does is turn over no fire!IM trying to get the owner of a shop that i know over here to scan it but so for no luck!whacha think?
 
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Old Feb 11, 2010 | 04:44 PM
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Have him scan ICP & IPR DC % ,, may be an injector o ring if the res was low . Are you getting any smoke out of the exaust?.. Is the WTS light coming on ?...Have you tried plugging it in (block heater) ?...
 
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Old Feb 11, 2010 | 04:54 PM
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Did the HPOP go dry after trying to start? Is the crankcase oil level OK?
 
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Old Feb 11, 2010 | 04:58 PM
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no smoke comming out that i can see,wts light does come on,ive plugged it in and have it on a charger.also i have new glow plugs,and new injectors just doesnt fire! and i have to keep putting oil in my hpop
 
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Old Feb 11, 2010 | 04:59 PM
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Did the HPOP go dry after trying to start? Is the crankcase oil level OK?

yes and yes
 
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Old Feb 11, 2010 | 05:07 PM
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Yeah, we really need to see the ICP. Anyone near you with AE or a ScanGauge?
 
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Old Feb 11, 2010 | 05:08 PM
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yes and yes
Seems as though the LPOP is not refilling the HPOP reservoir. Possibly bad LPOP or a cracked oil pick up tube.

Edit : I have never noticed but will the oil pressure gauge on our trucks register while cranking.

Edit 2 : Have him scan LPOP pressure.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2010 | 05:16 PM
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Yeah, we really need to see the ICP. Anyone near you with AE or a ScanGauge?

im working on that know but sometimes ppl just go at there own pace!lol
 
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Old Feb 11, 2010 | 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by PaysonPSD
Seems as though the LPOP is not refilling the HPOP reservoir. Possibly bad LPOP or a cracked oil pick up tube.

Edit : I have never noticed but will the oil pressure gauge on our trucks register while cranking.
oil pressure gauge goes up then goes back down while cranking
 
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Old Feb 11, 2010 | 05:26 PM
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There should be oil pressure the whole time it is cranking. If there is insufficient LPO there will be no or insufficient HPO.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2010 | 05:37 PM
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I there should be oil pressure the whole time it is cranking.

ok that sound right!But after i fill the hpop with oil shoudnt it start?

I did pull the connector off the icp it did have oil on the plug but still wouldnt start with icp unplugged
 
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Old Feb 11, 2010 | 05:39 PM
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ok that sound right!But after i fill the hpop with oil shoudnt it start?
Yes , for a moment ..
 
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Old Feb 11, 2010 | 05:45 PM
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ok that sound right!But after i fill the hpop with oil shoudnt it start?

I did pull the connector off the icp it did have oil on the plug but still wouldnt start with icp unplugged
Without the LPOP filling the HPOP Res I doubt the HPOP can maintain the 500 PSI to fire the injectors.
If you have to keep refilling the reservoir there is definitely a problem with low pressure oil supply.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2010 | 05:52 PM
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Without the LPOP filling the HPOP Res I doubt the HPOP can maintain the 500 PSI to fire the injectors.

ok will a scanner like AE scan my truck only if it cranks but not start?

will the scanner work for me?

will i be wasting my money because the truck will not start,on a AE

and i have a no show for the guy that was to scan my truck!lol
 
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Old Feb 11, 2010 | 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by medhvac
ok will a scanner like AE scan my truck only if it cranks but not start?

will the scanner work for me?

will i be wasting my money because the truck will not start,on a AE

and i have a no show for the guy that was to scan my truck!lol
Did you check the oil level in the C case ?..
 
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