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Old Jan 25, 2010 | 11:41 PM
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Yes it does Travis and RRanch, I'm sorry to dispute what you say but I can't believe that, with that load, you went by a Maxi who didn't have a load. If he had pushed on the go pedal one inch he would have blown by you. All I can say is that you have been blessed with one awsome stock pickup!!!
 
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Old Jan 26, 2010 | 12:40 AM
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the duramax/allison is an aweosme combo. thats what i sold to get my obs. my chipped obs feels like it has less power than my stock dmax did. but i think it was mostly because of the allison. i wish these trucks were as easy to get power out of them too. dont get me wrong i love my obs and its running great but i think the right combo of mods really helps these trucks not only run better but last longer. i think the problem comes when people are just looking to blow black smoke and thats it. i do agree with you rr that first you need a truck to be running great before you mod it. if there are things wrong and you mod it it will just speed up things breaking. once you drive a truck with 350+ rwhp you will never want to drive a stock truck again. even with just a chip they are putting out 275hp at the wheels and when a stock truck is about 180 at the wheels its a huge difference. think about how your truck would run with 1.5times the power it would be like a V-12 powerstroke maybe riding in travis' trcuk isnt a good idea. you might end up spending alot of money on yours haha
 
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Old Jan 26, 2010 | 12:55 AM
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Muktown, I think you miss understood me. I was saying that the duramax could and would have taken RR, no thought in my mind!!
 
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Old Jan 26, 2010 | 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted by oldbird1965
Muktown, I think you miss understood me. I was saying that the duramax could and would have taken RR, no thought in my mind!!
oh i completely agree with you! i had one. im saying a chipped obs is about what a stock dmax is for power. the dmax will walk all over our trucks. especially a stock loaded obs vs. a unloaded dmax
 
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Old Jan 26, 2010 | 08:29 AM
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A friend of mine with a newer duramax was able to pass me pretty fast with about the same load on before I fixed everything. We take the horses camping together all the time. No way now. I've driven her truck with her trailer before and my foot was always on the floor trying to hold 70 in the wind. I've driven and worked on a lot of GM trucks and they aren't all that great. I fixed more stupid crap on them when I was at the last gm dealer than I ever did on a ford too. Especially with the transmissions.

I'm running with my camper on right now for some extra weight because we are expecting snow and ice over the next few days. This morning while taking my wife to work I was overtaking all kinds of stuff on the hills just on the cruise at 65 again. It feels better than the 03 I had before it got wrecked now.
 
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Old Jan 26, 2010 | 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by strokin'_tatsch
my brother drives a modded 24v cummins and he is impressed with my truck. does that say anything when a cummins owner is impressed??? LoL
That does say something. The only cummings guy I know has the original first Turbo cummings, and that truck is impressive though. He hasn't gone for a ride in mine yet though, and he will next month after the clutch is in. =)
For a Dodge, he does have a <i>real</i> truck. I'll give him that.

Originally Posted by Muktown
the duramax/allison is an aweosme combo. thats what i sold to get my obs. my chipped obs feels like it has less power than my stock dmax did. but i think it was mostly because of the allison. i wish these trucks were as easy to get power out of them too. dont get me wrong i love my obs and its running great but i think the right combo of mods really helps these trucks not only run better but last longer. i think the problem comes when people are just looking to blow black smoke and thats it. i do agree with you rr that first you need a truck to be running great before you mod it. if there are things wrong and you mod it it will just speed up things breaking. once you drive a truck with 350+ rwhp you will never want to drive a stock truck again. even with just a chip they are putting out 275hp at the wheels and when a stock truck is about 180 at the wheels its a huge difference. think about how your truck would run with 1.5times the power it would be like a V-12 powerstroke maybe riding in travis' trcuk isnt a good idea. you might end up spending alot of money on yours haha
The Allison trans is pretty decent, but why GM decided to put a Issuzu motor in front of it escapes me. They talk about how we need to go american, even though most of the GM stuff is build everywhere else, and stick a jap motor in front. DOH!
I've rode in a duramax before, they are okay. I'm not really impressed. My OBS, stock, felt better than the Duramax did.
Dan is right on one thing, out trucks should be right before we mod them. But I dont think that our trucks, stock, are that bad. I was really impressed with mine hauling hay. The D-max coudln't keep up with me at all. granted, they had a bigger load, but still. Brand new d-max and i had 258k miles on my truck and I was pulling 2nd gear starts up hill.
As for modding my truck. I"m so glad I have the injectors and chip. It runs far better than it did before, and mind you, i had all broken nozzle springs before, and my truck ran GOOD. Now it runs good, but with more unf!

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Yes it does Travis and RRanch, I'm sorry to dispute what you say but I can't believe that, with that load, you went by a Maxi who didn't have a load. If he had pushed on the go pedal one inch he would have blown by you. All I can say is that you have been blessed with one awsome stock pickup!!!
Thats debatable uphill on our trucks. Flat ground, probably. I dont think the D-max has a big turbo like our OBS's do. Our truck thrives when its lugged down, the turbo kicks in and away you go!

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A friend of mine with a newer duramax was able to pass me pretty fast with about the same load on before I fixed everything. We take the horses camping together all the time. No way now. I've driven her truck with her trailer before and my foot was always on the floor trying to hold 70 in the wind. I've driven and worked on a lot of GM trucks and they aren't all that great. I fixed more stupid crap on them when I was at the last gm dealer than I ever did on a ford too. Especially with the transmissions.
The whole Gotta work on other vehicles more thing is debatable to me always. Chevy guys say they never have to work on their stuff, dodge guys say they never have to work on their stuff.
A Dodge guy who is a mechanic told me you never have to work on the jap stuff, and he's mopar hardcore! He worked at a honda dealership. Said they built good cars. Mind you, he still drives a dodge. But then, he's not had to wrench on his since he bought it. *shrugs* All a luck of the draw IMO on vehicles.


As for the mod and unmod thing.
MOD!
What is wrong with efficiency and making things better?
We all like better right? Go better!

I think of it this way, I got a 93 SHO now. That's basically a 4 door sports car. Was the fastest production car in 93. (faster than mustang GT).
This car is fast. If I want to go somewhere fast, I take the car.
If I want to go somewhere with the possibility of going fast, I take the truck.
And in all honesty. My truck BLOWS the car away. (with a slipping clutch)
 
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Old Jan 26, 2010 | 09:55 AM
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The only real problem I have with mods is trying to get replacement parts when you are broke down out in the middle of nowhere. It's happened to me a couple times when I was younger.

I have been a master certified tech for Ford and GM over the last 15 years. I keep going back and forth between the dealers. I quit altogether a couple of years ago because they are all a bunch of crooks out here as far as I am concerned.

What I ran into at GM were things that were problems for several years and never got fixed. On their cars, that darn intermediate steering shaft that the factory never greased. Bad switches and wiring problems.
On the trucks, transmission electrical problems. 4.10 ration rear ends going out on the trucks all the time. You all would not believe how many ring and pinion sets I did at GM. Pinion bearings too. It was very rare at Ford. Except on the aluminum housing explorers. Those are pure junk. Mostly it was something stupid but it's still annoying enough that I would never own another one.
 
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Old Jan 26, 2010 | 10:08 AM
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The dmax will without question out run an OBS powerstroke when both are unloaded.
However, in all my experiences with loads of cattle and hay and whatnot, the OBS will out do the dmax everytime.

The allison that is hooked up with the dmax is junk. 1st gear is good, that's it. My boss has the program that allows him to make his own tunes for his 07. Whenever I am the DD, he always has a cow sayin, "Don't punch it too hard out a 1st gear, the tranny won't handle it." He claims to be knocking on the 500 HP door.

I would use my mostly stock truck that doesn't run totally right to tow with anyday and everyday over his tuned dmax.
 
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Old Jan 26, 2010 | 10:14 AM
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You work yours a lot like I do. I use it like my tractor a lot. Last time idid round bales I had 20 at a time on 5 wagons behind the truck going down the highway. Real slow though. Those hay wagons swing all over the place. I got no problems putting 20-30 cows in the stock trailer either. It's a big custom one my neighbor had made. I can't pass the big rig cattle haulers but I can keep up with anything else. I rarely drive over 65 so this is all I need.
 
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Old Jan 26, 2010 | 10:22 AM
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I never realized that they put a crappy trans behind that truck.

I've never read anything about guys busting them though.
 
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Old Jan 26, 2010 | 10:28 AM
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OMG, My boss stresses sooooooo much about it. I think its hilarious.
He told me once the specs for each gear, 1st was obviously the strongest, second gear was close, and after that it really starts to drop off. He holds it down to fourth gear when he hauls cattle just in case. LOL. Oh and he doesn't like to haul more than 6 holstein butcher cows at a time either. HAHA.
 
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Old Jan 26, 2010 | 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by RRranch
The only real problem I have with mods is trying to get replacement parts when you are broke down out in the middle of nowhere. It's happened to me a couple times when I was younger.
I forgot to talk about this.

Why would you need to get replacement parts for injectors?
A chip? You can pull the chip.

What Mods are you talking about that you would be worried about replacing parts on?

An electric fuel system? You can put in a super doodie pump for a quick replacement and have it work.
 
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Old Jan 26, 2010 | 02:19 PM
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hmmmmmm.... my truck hasn't been stock for the last 3 years... haven't had any problems that i couldn't fix with original ford parts except for my pyro guage, but that was different.

Dan, i think a ride in my truck will show you that these trucks have a lot of waking up to do. They are detuned way too much from the factory. they shoulda came like this!!!!
 
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Old Jan 26, 2010 | 04:16 PM
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ok, what am i doing wrong? I know my ICP sensor is junk, but i get not even 200 miles per my front tank...Unloaded around town...Doesnt seem right.
 
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