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Old Jan 22, 2010 | 04:47 PM
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Air conditioner compressor

My 99 Expedition air conditioner compressor has just started to cycle on and off about every 5 seconds and I'm not getting any cold air from the vents. I have never had the system recharged. Think the constant on/off cycling is a result of low refrigerant? I guess there could be a leak but it has works great the last 11 years.

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Old Jan 22, 2010 | 05:26 PM
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It's a good chance it's low on refrigerant due to a leak and cycling on the low pressure switch. Can be possible it's a bad switch but not likely.
 
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Old Jan 22, 2010 | 06:28 PM
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Go to the HVAC sub-forum and read the FAQs.
 
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Old Jan 23, 2010 | 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by npearman
My 99 Expedition air conditioner compressor has just started to cycle on and off about every 5 seconds and I'm not getting any cold air from the vents. I have never had the system recharged. Think the constant on/off cycling is a result of low refrigerant? I guess there could be a leak but it has works great the last 11 years.

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It is very likely very low on freon and will work just fine if you put a can of freon into the system, or maybe two. All of the modern cars have a sensor/limit switch that will not let the compressor engage if the system is empty or nearly empty. Consider the cycling on and off as a warning and add freon now, then get the system checked by a pro. before it gets really expensive.
 
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Old Jan 23, 2010 | 03:09 PM
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Can I put the freon in myself? I have a haynes manual I can check out but is this something pretty straight forward?
 
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Old Jan 23, 2010 | 06:40 PM
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Can I put the freon in myself? I have a haynes manual I can check out but is this something pretty straight forward?

Go READ THE FAQS!
 
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Old Jan 23, 2010 | 10:04 PM
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Can I put the freon in myself? I have a haynes manual I can check out but is this something pretty straight forward?
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Go READ THE FAQS!

You should first read the FAQs, but yes it is pretty easy to do. Pick up 2 cans of 134 freon and a DIY tool that has a gage at the parts store, then read the instructions that comes with the installation tool. It is pretty easy but if there is a problem in the system you may still have problems afterward, there is no substitute for a qualified tech.'s evaluation. I have been fortunate in only having a very slow loss of freon and have only had to add 2 cans after 9 years and that was a little over 2 years ago. Todays cars and trucks are very reliable if basic maint. is done on a regular basis.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2010 | 12:13 AM
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I had two Ford products which exhibited the same symptons as your air conditioning system and each one cost me $1100 in repairs. Since then, I had another Taurus and a Volvo with the same problem. On these two vehicles, I got by with adding one or two cans of freon every 3-4 weeks during the summer season for the last 3 years. The leaks do not appear to be getting worse. I will continue doing this as I live in New England and we have a short summer season. The kid in the autoparts store was telling me that he needs to add a can of freon every 12 days in the summer. Again, he can buy a lot of freon before the $ 1100 repair makes sense.
 
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I live in New England and we have a short summer season.
The A/C compressor is run in the winter too when the defrosters are on. This has the benefit of drying out the air and preventing the windows from fogging up.
 
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Originally Posted by 98expeditionXLT
I had two Ford products which exhibited the same symptons as your air conditioning system and each one cost me $1100 in repairs. Since then, I had another Taurus and a Volvo with the same problem. On these two vehicles, I got by with adding one or two cans of freon every 3-4 weeks during the summer season for the last 3 years. The leaks do not appear to be getting worse. I will continue doing this as I live in New England and we have a short summer season. The kid in the autoparts store was telling me that he needs to add a can of freon every 12 days in the summer. Again, he can buy a lot of freon before the $ 1100 repair makes sense.
You can buy the leak check freon kit at the parts store and add that when adding the freon, then look for the dye to discolor the areas at the various connections and the evaporator or condenser. If there is a leak at a connection you will need to replace the o-ring and recharge the system, if a condenser or evaporator it gets expensive and difficult for the DIYer.
 
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Old Jan 25, 2010 | 01:56 PM
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I added 2 cans of freon this weekend and it seems to have corrected the problem. My repair manual said to look for oily type deposits near the connectors as signs of a leak. I think I probably do have one on one of the connections. I'll just have to see how fast the leak is. Thanks for the responses.

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Originally Posted by npearman
I added 2 cans of freon this weekend and it seems to have corrected the problem. My repair manual said to look for oily type deposits near the connectors as signs of a leak. I think I probably do have one on one of the connections. I'll just have to see how fast the leak is. Thanks for the responses.

Nathan

Nearly all of the a/c connections show signs of seepage after a year or so of use. The easiest way to pinpoint the offending connector is to use the Dye check method, you will know for certain in 1 day.
 
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