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Old Jan 18, 2010 | 07:52 PM
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DP Tuner Question???

Gettin ready to order my DP Tuner, what is the difference between the normal tunes(example 60t, 80e, 140e or 140agressive) and the same tunes that say codes.... and what is the difference between 140 extreme and 140 aggressive...
 
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Old Jan 18, 2010 | 08:08 PM
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The aggressive smokes a lot more than the extreme. Or vice versa, can't remember. The codes tunes help prevent the ICP ? and overboost codes that usually happen when running hot tunes; although you still will probably get an overboost code without an OBA.
 
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Old Jan 18, 2010 | 08:34 PM
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Get the code tunes, and either 140 will yield about the same on a stock HPOP, IMO.
 
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Old Jan 18, 2010 | 09:41 PM
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Aren't the Code Tunes just preventing the CEL from illuminating? They are not actually preventing the cause of the CEL light. Correct? Thus, they net the same gains. And if you have a way to pull codes, will you still see them?
 
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Old Jan 18, 2010 | 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Orezona
Aren't the Code Tunes just preventing the CEL from illuminating? They are not actually preventing the cause of the CEL light. Correct? Thus, they net the same gains. And if you have a way to pull codes, you will still see them.
Actually just the opposite, with the overboost code tune will keep you from defueling but will still set the SES so a boost fueler is still recommended.
 
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Old Jan 18, 2010 | 10:27 PM
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Why would I need the boost fooler, if the code tune is preventing de-fueling? Sorry Clay, it is a little late here.
 
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Old Jan 18, 2010 | 10:29 PM
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Nah, no worries man. It wont defuel, but still sets the SES because it senses over ~23psi of boost. The SES goes off after 30 secs, but if you are playing around it gets old.
 
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Old Jan 18, 2010 | 10:38 PM
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But if my Overboost Annihilator prevents the MAP sensor from seeing + 24 psi, which prevents de-fueling and the CEL, what is the advantage of the no-code tunes?
 
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Old Jan 18, 2010 | 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Orezona
But if my Overboost Annihilator prevents the MAP sensor from seeing + 24 psi, which prevents de-fueling and the CEL, what is the advantage of the no-code tunes?
Good point, I use it because it not only keeps it from defueling it delays it so I can set my fooler a little higher. As well as the ICP and EBP codes as well, as I don't like my SES going off.
 
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Old Jan 19, 2010 | 02:57 AM
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Several other tuners have changed the map to where you dont have to use a map fooler... I have asked before why this cant be done else where but have always been told to run the fooler... Hummmmm
 
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Old Jan 19, 2010 | 07:18 AM
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But if my Overboost Annihilator prevents the MAP sensor from seeing + 24 psi, which prevents de-fueling and the CEL, what is the advantage of the no-code tunes?
Well for one if you are running less then 30 psi of boost you won't have to install anything. If you are running an aftermarket turbo that will push your boost higher then 30 psi of boost, Jody recommends that you do install the OBA to help save the diaphram inside the Map sensor. This is why we still sell the ITP OBA kit.

Jody did not want to adjust the voltage code in his tuning so that when you hook up a scan tool you won't be given a lesser reading then what you are actually getting.


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Old Jan 19, 2010 | 07:33 AM
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I'm not sure what to say to this Diane, if I were to remove my OBA I'd get an SES light every time. I know I don't need one as it isn't defueling, but still have to run OBA to keep that light off; it gets annoying.
 
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I'm not sure what to say to this Diane, if I were to remove my OBA I'd get an SES light every time. I know I don't need one as it isn't defueling, but still have to run OBA to keep that light off; it gets annoying.

If you are running the Codes tunes and the OBA and you remove the OBA and you get a code you are most likely getting the Voltage code or you are going over 36 psi of boost.

Bottom line is you need to see which code you are getting.

P0238 Voltage code
P1248 Sensor code.
 
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Old Jan 19, 2010 | 08:48 AM
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That is possible, I haven't actually read the codes since I don't have that capability. There's no way I get 36# of boost, so if it's the voltage code what do I do then?
 
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That is possible, I haven't actually read the codes since I don't have that capability. There's no way I get 36# of boost, so if it's the voltage code what do I do then?

One is to use Dennis' OBA kit.

The other would be as I described in my previous post. Jody would have to make that adjustment in the tuning, but when you do use a scan tool to get boost readings the scan tool will be not be reading the proper boost. This can also effect the fuel readings as well.

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