Ford to kill Manual?
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From the Tennessee driver's license page-
Exemptions from needing a separate class driver's license.
4. Individuals ....operating motor homes or other vehicles used exclusively to transport personal possessions or family members, for non business purposes.
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Don't forget the Ag. exemption of hauling within a 150 mile radius, despite the weight as well. Both of which, if I recall correctly, are also the same exemptions in Texas as well.
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You have to have a CDL to operate a commercial vehicle.
The 26,000# rule does not apply to motorhomes/RVs as there is no reasonable expectation that they will be hauling for business, but only temporary living.
There are also Agricultrual exemptions for 150miles (IIRC) from the farm.
Class A and CDL are terms that get wrongfully interchanged sometimes.
The 26,000# rule does not apply to motorhomes/RVs as there is no reasonable expectation that they will be hauling for business, but only temporary living.
There are also Agricultrual exemptions for 150miles (IIRC) from the farm.
Class A and CDL are terms that get wrongfully interchanged sometimes.
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Now, what's the meaning for the parenthesis for both of the gassers? The diesel in parenthesis says that all of them comes with the auto, however, for the gassers it lists F-350 for the v8 and 450-550 for the v10. If you don't have a choice then why do they have models in parenthesis?
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since the 10 is only available in 450 and 550
That's the entire powertrain option availability, 3 options, no choices.
V8 gasser w/TS6 - F350
V8 diesel w/TS6 - F350 F450 F550
V10 gasser w/TS5 - F450 F550
The choice isn't about the transmission, but the whole combo. For example, if you want an F350, you can choose gas or diesel, either way you get a TS6
That's the entire powertrain option availability, 3 options, no choices.
V8 gasser w/TS6 - F350
V8 diesel w/TS6 - F350 F450 F550
V10 gasser w/TS5 - F450 F550
The choice isn't about the transmission, but the whole combo. For example, if you want an F350, you can choose gas or diesel, either way you get a TS6
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since the 10 is only available in 450 and 550
That's the entire powertrain option availability, 3 options, no choices.
V8 gasser w/TS6 - F350
V8 diesel w/TS6 - F350 F450 F550
V10 gasser w/TS5 - F450 F550
The choice isn't about the transmission, but the whole combo. For example, if you want an F350, you can choose gas or diesel, either way you get a TS6
That's the entire powertrain option availability, 3 options, no choices.
V8 gasser w/TS6 - F350
V8 diesel w/TS6 - F350 F450 F550
V10 gasser w/TS5 - F450 F550
The choice isn't about the transmission, but the whole combo. For example, if you want an F350, you can choose gas or diesel, either way you get a TS6
Gotcha. Sometimes people have to dumb things down for me to understand.
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There weren't any manuals around so my dealer did a dealer swap to get this one it was 400 miles away. After we negotiated price he "just happened" to find a few more. I think they were trying to re-negotiate a better profit margin after I laid down some cash.
I'm selling my Tahoe in a few years and replacing it with a manual transmission truck. I don't care who the manufacturer is. It's gonna have a manual transmission.
I'm selling my Tahoe in a few years and replacing it with a manual transmission truck. I don't care who the manufacturer is. It's gonna have a manual transmission.
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That's not to say that it will happen, but the fact that your only criteria is that it has a manual transmission is not exactly the only thing that you want to be factoring in when you go shopping.
I understand the fact that you want your manual tranny, but you might be getting a very crappy truck(or whatever vehicle) and even a crappy tranny if you only have one option to get a manual from. So just the fact that it has a manual tranny, I wouldn't consider it in of itself the only criteria to get a vehicle, like it's sounding from your quote above.
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That can be a dangerous attitude to take. Depending on what the situation is, you can be runing the risk of having a crappy truck from a company that can't take care of customer's warranty issues or various other scenerios that you can think of.
That's not to say that it will happen, but the fact that your only criteria is that it has a manual transmission is not exactly the only thing that you want to be factoring in when you go shopping.
I understand the fact that you want your manual tranny, but you might be getting a very crappy truck(or whatever vehicle) and even a crappy tranny if you only have one option to get a manual from. So just the fact that it has a manual tranny, I wouldn't consider it in of itself the only criteria to get a vehicle, like it's sounding from your quote above.
That's not to say that it will happen, but the fact that your only criteria is that it has a manual transmission is not exactly the only thing that you want to be factoring in when you go shopping.
I understand the fact that you want your manual tranny, but you might be getting a very crappy truck(or whatever vehicle) and even a crappy tranny if you only have one option to get a manual from. So just the fact that it has a manual tranny, I wouldn't consider it in of itself the only criteria to get a vehicle, like it's sounding from your quote above.
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Fair enough.
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Reality here is that Ford killed the Manual on the TWO WHEEL DRIVE models. I think it is in the body builders guide - I read it over and over, and it seems that most of the people that read it didn't pick up on this. Not a surprise - I had a dealer tell me this happened two years ago. Went to a knowledgeable dealer, and dispelled that myth quickly.
Will there be a manual available in any combination for 2011? I'd like to know since it would allow me to replace my current vehicle if I ever needed to. Like many other folks I'll ONLY purchase a vehicle with a stick.
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What does this post indicate? That few dealers really know what is available?
Will there be a manual available in any combination for 2011? I'd like to know since it would allow me to replace my current vehicle if I ever needed to. Like many other folks I'll ONLY purchase a vehicle with a stick.
Will there be a manual available in any combination for 2011? I'd like to know since it would allow me to replace my current vehicle if I ever needed to. Like many other folks I'll ONLY purchase a vehicle with a stick.
It will be gone in 2011, see my link above.
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With the big 3 fighting to keep their doors open they many not be able to afford the added costs associated with manual transmission.
On road trips at work I had to give up on driving a manual unless I wanted to do 100% of the driving due to the younger generation not knowing what at "extra" pedal does.
The dependability issues even in the large trucks is no longer an issue so automatics rules the day it seems across the board.
The MH is the first truck I have ever driven with an automatic and actually like it. The F700 5 speed is a pain to shift when my knee is flared up. Automatics I found are nice when recovering from hip, knee and shoulder surgeries.
You can not park on a hill due to a bad battery or starter but who drives a daily driver that will not start and run using only the key?
On road trips at work I had to give up on driving a manual unless I wanted to do 100% of the driving due to the younger generation not knowing what at "extra" pedal does.
The dependability issues even in the large trucks is no longer an issue so automatics rules the day it seems across the board.
The MH is the first truck I have ever driven with an automatic and actually like it. The F700 5 speed is a pain to shift when my knee is flared up. Automatics I found are nice when recovering from hip, knee and shoulder surgeries.
You can not park on a hill due to a bad battery or starter but who drives a daily driver that will not start and run using only the key?
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Automatics I found are nice when recovering from hip, knee and shoulder surgery.