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Old Dec 30, 2009 | 06:26 PM
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Ok. dumb question... What is A "ITALIAN TUNEUP"
 
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Old Dec 30, 2009 | 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by bigdog13
Ok. dumb question... What is A "ITALIAN TUNEUP"


The Italian tune-up - at least in a diesel [although it applies to a gas car too - Ed] consists of taking a SOUND car out and maximally accelerating from stop or slow speed to some high speed OR driving at near full rpm with a heavy load (up long hill) for minutes at a time. The idea is to get maximal air and fuel flowing through the engine to develop near maximum heat. This will burn and eject residual carbon that has collected in the engine. Following such a regimen the idle is usually smoother and the amount of black smoke at full throttle should be reduced. This occasionally does not happen the 1st time and the idle might get rougher or a pronounced knock could occur. This is usually because some carbon has been "rearranged" but the prechamber environment isn't appropriate for smooth combustion. Further TREATMENT will clear this up as more carbon is burned up, but it is a little scary the 1st time it happens to YOU and your car! A few full throttle accelerations a week will usually keep most CLEAN engines cleaned out pretty well. More prolonged "treatment" is usually required for a car that has had a LOT of city driving. Just a long highway trip (50+ miles) with several two-three minute full throttle periods (long 6-8% grades are GREAT) will clean out an awful lot of carbon and crud that's build up, but with a really "city bound car" it may may take more than just a few sessions to really get it all out. My weekly 250 mile trips from Pittsburgh to Washington DC and back over the last 7 years have given me a chance to really examine the "Italian tune-up" and the concept of "flailing the heck out of the MB diesel engine" or at least running it at near full throttle/top speed for a long period of time.
I referred to a "SOUND" car. To me that means a car that NO serious mechanical problems. The chain stretch should be below 5 degrees or so, the valves should be properly adjusted, the air and fuel filters should be verifiably clean, and there should be clean and it would probably be best if the injection pump timing is known to be pretty close to correct (within a couple of degrees). The cars/engines I presently own, have THRIVED on this regimen. Idle smooths out, smoking diminishes, and fuel and oil consumption goes down. I can't promise that on an engine that's worn out, but nobody else can either ;-)

The Italian Tune-Up



Specifics:


Make sure there is no water in fuel tank (drain water from fuel/water filter separator).


Add whatever Diesel Fuel conditioner / etc. you regularly use, at 2X dose to tank prior.


Warm up motor thoroughly (max temperature)


Drive to place with steep hills if possible. If not, the tallest inclined road you can find.

e.g. Go find the steepest hill nearby on the interstate.


Hit the Overdrive disengage button.


Start at slowest possible speed on bottom of hill without compromising safety (e.g. no traffic behind or beside you).

e.g. 20mph

Gun the thing to max RPM

Hold it for up to 2 minutes or as long as the road allow you to.

Repeat process a few times.




Alternate method:

On sharp incline or clear road:

Shift it into 1 from a standing start, rev it to max RPM (whatever that is for you before the governor kicks in).

Hold it there for about a minute.

Then, shift into 2, then 3.

Hold for a minute each time.


Repeat a few times.




See this thread:

http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=229760


which at the end of it has this posted:


In the spirit of political incorrectness, we should not forget the other two miracle fixes given to us by other nationalities. (1) "Polish Brake Job" this , of course, repeatedly "getting on" your brakes hard in an attempt to "fix" pad or rotor problems. (2) "Irish Alignment" why waste a lot of money on an alignment? If your car is pulling to the right, just pump your right tire up to 50 pounds, and bleed the left one down to 15 or so! Watch how quick the differential in rolling resistance corrects your path!
 
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Old Dec 30, 2009 | 07:07 PM
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I was thinking vanes in turbo sticking sometimes , and have recently read about Egr opening -but I have mine unplugged. What about that? Thanks for the info. What is Italian tune up - run the heck out of it? I all ready do that when I can.
 
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Old Dec 30, 2009 | 07:12 PM
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I suspect in my case, rust that accumulated from nearly a year of little use in the turbo got shown the exhaust...
 
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