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Old Dec 29, 2009 | 05:26 PM
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Engine Missing when cold

Is there any thing I can do to help my truck run better when its cold...the truck starts right up and starts to miss I drive about two miles and it starts clearing up and runs good. its only about 25deg when I leave for work.

I would like to plug it in but can`t get it close to the house.
 
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Old Dec 29, 2009 | 05:29 PM
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try the new reflash from the dealer. You may find out that you have some injectors going south wich the reflash may or may not help but it is the cheepist attempt to fix.
also try a thinner oil. Lots on here seem to like the 5-40 syn oil.
 
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Old Dec 29, 2009 | 06:10 PM
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Warm it up before you drive off.

Wait about 5 minutes.
 
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Old Dec 29, 2009 | 06:24 PM
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The new flash. What all changes with the new flash?
 
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Old Dec 29, 2009 | 06:29 PM
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Here is how you go about getting the new flash from the dealer for free!


First, you got to dress properly.

Heavy overcoat, long length, kind of like Morpheus wore in the Matrix.

Wear nothing underneath, not even underwear.


Then go to the dealer reception desk, and quickly undo the coat and hold both sides open with your hands.


The flash will do wonders for you.


 
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Old Dec 29, 2009 | 10:53 PM
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Baaaahahahahahahahaha!!!
 
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Old Dec 30, 2009 | 05:57 AM
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Read this for new flash info https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/9...-for-6-0s.html
 
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Old Dec 30, 2009 | 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by bigdog13
Is there any thing I can do to help my truck run better when its cold...the truck starts right up and starts to miss I drive about two miles and it starts clearing up and runs good. its only about 25deg when I leave for work.

I would like to plug it in but can`t get it close to the house.
Mine acts the same way, will do allright if you let it warm GOD HELP ME IN CASE OF A EMERGENCY!!! Because even in warm weather it will not move out of it own tracks until it has ran for at least 5 min. I also noticed that during the the day if you shut it off for maybe 20-30min. It will smoke and stumble for awhile?? This is a 03 250 work truck weighs approx.10,600 lbs. at all times. So I have to pull off the side of road untill it clears up (frustrating and dangerous) NO CODES from my scanner or at dealer, Dealer did have a few suggestion's( Clean Turbo and if that doesn't work maybe an Injector issue?) I have had all the latest flashes , syn. oil , ICP sensor replaced, Filters ,etc. I am planning on cleaning turbo when the weather gets better or I can or have to shut it down during the week.
 
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Old Dec 30, 2009 | 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by 2000 roadking
I also noticed that during the the day if you shut it off for maybe 20-30min. It will smoke and stumble for awhile??

Mine does the same thing.

Additional symptom: if you let it get real warm (max temp), pull into a parking lot, in D, you will notice engine surge. Mild surge, but surge the same.

In some cases, mine coded P0404 (EGR) or Turbo Underboost.


Hypothesis: EGR valve sticking, or turbo vanes sticking.


In these cases, I clear the code, then do "Italian tuneup". Then it does not appear again for a while.

If you run with the codes on, it goes into limp mode and mileage plunges.

Ideas?
 
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Old Dec 30, 2009 | 09:40 AM
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those are the same symptons my 03 had it didnt matter what the temp was it would not move until it warmed up get the flash done it is like a new truck after that i couldnt believe the difference i have had it since last summer and i am very happy with it
 
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Old Dec 30, 2009 | 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by topdrive
those are the same symptons my 03 had it didnt matter what the temp was it would not move until it warmed up get the flash done it is like a new truck after that i couldnt believe the difference i have had it since last summer and i am very happy with it

Mine was flashed October 30, 09.

It helped cold starting, but the other problems remained.
 
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Old Dec 30, 2009 | 11:43 AM
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flash

same thing with my flash --help cold-cold starting but not running
 
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Old Dec 30, 2009 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by 2000 roadking
same thing with my flash --help cold-cold starting but not running

Describe your running problems...in greater detail.

Lets trade notes.

Do you have your own code reader?
 
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Old Dec 30, 2009 | 06:08 PM
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  1. will not pull out of driveway when first cranked outside temp cold or hot
  2. IF YOU TRY TO MOVE IT . It just smokes kind of a light blue smoke smells like raw fuel and you do not have any throotle response after 2000 rpm's
  3. After letting it sit after warmed up shut off for about 20-30 mins. Or you can let it idle for may be 5-10 mins. and it will act the same .
  4. No codes I have snap-on (blue point) scanner lt seems to be better suited for gas engines But will read 6.0 codes and clear them
  5. It did show a ICP a few months back and would idle wierd I changed sensor and plug cleared code and engine idled fine
 
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Old Dec 30, 2009 | 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by 2000 roadking
  1. will not pull out of driveway when first cranked outside temp cold or hot
  2. IF YOU TRY TO MOVE IT . It just smokes kind of a light blue smoke smells like raw fuel and you do not have any throotle response after 2000 rpm's
  3. After letting it sit after warmed up shut off for about 20-30 mins. Or you can let it idle for may be 5-10 mins. and it will act the same .
  4. No codes I have snap-on (blue point) scanner lt seems to be better suited for gas engines But will read 6.0 codes and clear them
  5. It did show a ICP a few months back and would idle wierd I changed sensor and plug cleared code and engine idled fine

98% certain it is one or both of these things.

I had exactly the same thing --- will not even roll off the line past 10mph.


A) EGR valve stuck wide open or something.


B) Turbo vanes jammed or Turbo itself jammed.



Solution:

Turn it off, go have a coffee, and clear any codes when you come back.

Then if it works.... get it as warm as you can (10 to 20miles drive).

Then, Italian tuneup the thing.


I fixed my problem each time.



Serious fix: wait for spring, then pull EGR valve, turbo, etc. and start diagnostics and repair or replace.
 
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