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Old Dec 18, 2009 | 01:15 PM
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Turbo on an old engine

Wanted to get yalls opinion on putting a turbo on an old engine.

7.3 with 177k. Will it work or just blow it up?
 
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Old Dec 18, 2009 | 01:24 PM
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That is a hard question with out some more info.
I would say a 7.3 with 177,000 miles you are good to go up to about 15 pounds boost, which you will not get that amount of boost without some fuel, air and exhaust mods.
Mostly we need to know the weight and size of right foot. lol
 
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Old Dec 18, 2009 | 01:36 PM
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Im just looking for a little more power for pulling my tractor and stuff like that.

Its all stock. This is my first diesel and I thought it would have a little more uumph than it does.
 
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Old Dec 18, 2009 | 01:43 PM
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The turbo will add some oomph especially at higher rpm's and higher elevations is where they shine. I only have one with a turbo and it seems like I lost a little power at low rpms but once the turbo spools it makes a substancial difference same thing in the mountains where the air is thin.
 
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Old Dec 18, 2009 | 01:51 PM
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Rusty if your IP and injectors are original and very possible at 177,000 miles you may be loosing some performance there.
Also on an NA changing the stock exhaust to true duals, cutting out the soupbowl and keeping the cold air intake or even modifying it makes for a whole different animal.
Warning on a NA straight piped duals sound very cool at low rpm's but at a certain rpm or pulling a load you will need earplugs and your neighbors will not be nearly as friendly.
You need some good quality freeflowing mufflers designed for diesel.
 
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Old Dec 18, 2009 | 01:53 PM
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177k? thats about 27k past break-in.
 
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Old Dec 18, 2009 | 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by starmilt
Warning on a NA straight piped duals sound very cool at low rpm's but at a certain rpm or pulling a load you will need earplugs and your neighbors will not be nearly as friendly.
You need some good quality freeflowing mufflers designed for diesel.
Mine (NA, single stock type muffler) had the exhaust joint after the downpipe fall apart a couple weeks ago. You're absolutely right about the sound! Almost didn't sound any different at idle, and low rpm's was ok. When I floored it, holy crap was it loud!! It sound pretty cool, but waaaayyy too loud to drive.

My truck is an '88 NA with 191K on it, mostly original parts, its getting a turbo sometime in the next two weeks (I'm hoping for a few warm enough days over Christmas vacation, right now I'm freezing my *** off just driving to work, no way I'll wrench in this weather!). Its also going to get an exhaust upgrade if I can get the 3.5inch one off a powerstroke to work. Craigslist buy for like $40 for a decent muffler, tailpipe and a few other bits, plus a few bits from summit and a new(ish) exhaust for ~$100
I seriously wondering if I should do the injectors while I'm at it, definitely doing the return lines. But with the money I couldn't afford to spend on the turbo.. I really can't pay anything more for injectors
 
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Old Dec 18, 2009 | 04:35 PM
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10 PSI is usually where you get the optimum the power anyway. Higher boost without intercooling doesn't make much more power and EGTs start to climb. 5-10 PSI is where the engine is usually the happiest and EGTs will stay consistent and reasonable as long as your fuel settings are not too high.

Even 5 psi will make a night and day difference in power.

You could be safe at 15 PSI but IMO, its not worth it in terms of performance. In theory, there shouldn't be any reliability issues, but that assumes a near perfect engine.

Not trying to tell you what to do, but you should not feel like you need over 10 PSI to make the turbo worth while.
 
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Old Dec 18, 2009 | 06:57 PM
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David85 10 pounds boost is for normal folks cut Dave s. back to 10 he would think he was driving a toyota. lol
 
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Old Dec 18, 2009 | 10:54 PM
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With the colder temps we have now, I really like my high boost.

Snowing like a mad man out there right now, so I am going to have to hit the sack soon.
I forsee a long day starting in a couple hours.
 
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Old Dec 19, 2009 | 01:52 AM
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Originally Posted by starmilt
David85 10 pounds boost is for normal folks cut Dave s. back to 10 he would think he was driving a toyota. lol
make that a toyota from the early 80s with all the smogger junk that makes people at the EPA sleep soundly at night.

However his engine is probably farther from stock than any 6.9 still killing out there.

Have fun, Dave. I'm missing the snow and diesel fumes but only another month to go....
 
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Old Dec 19, 2009 | 07:13 PM
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Well been out since 4 AM, home for a meal and back out there again.
Probably abot 16" of heavy wet snow with ice under it.

Chained up so I can push it in low range.
 
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Old Dec 20, 2009 | 04:08 AM
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Cha Ching$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
 
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Old Dec 20, 2009 | 05:20 AM
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David85 10 pounds boost is for normal folks cut Dave s. back to 10 he would think he was driving a toyota. lol
PRIUS
 
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Old Dec 20, 2009 | 04:44 PM
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I'm starting to visualize a remake the the movie "Duel", but instead of a valiant running from a tanker truck, its a pruis running from a smokin' IDI with a blade on the front.

Come to think of it, Dave was a rig driver so he could fit the role of predator rather well.

We'll have the chase in the snow this time instead of the dessert.

(priuses suck in the snow because they are heavy and run on hard tires meant for MPGs)
 
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