Guys,

I have been looking for something like this that would read directly from the PCM etc to give actual readings seen by the computer versus installing a bunch of manual guages. Has anyone used this? Seen problems with it? Good bad? I could be wrong but I can't see this voiding a warranty since this particular unit is doing nothing but simply monitoring versus monitoring/programming like the Attitude would. Seems to have some nice features but I am a rookie in this soo.

Thoughts?

Edge Products: Product


Pit

 

I put one in about a week ago.
Love it
make sure you get the EGT sensor from them. Got mine from AutoAnything.com ( Monitor and EGT) for less than what edge sells them for with there holiday 50 off promotion. Free overnight shipping also.
I love the fact that I can program it with 4 screens on the pc and then down load it to the monitor.

I have not tried the data logging yet, and that is why I bought it!

 

I love mine. I have it set to monitor coolant temp, oil temp, voltage and trans temp. It's how I knew my oil cooler was shot when the oil and coolant temps were 25 degrees apart.

 

What they said...x3. It is a inout (receives only) device...does not leave a signature on the pcm. Simply plugs into the OBDII port and gives a mulitude of PID data instantly. I love mine as well. Got to keep my grab handle...the wife was concerned that she would have nothing to help her get in the truck if she drove it...lol. Also, gives as much as 7 PIDs at one time on the screen...although most only display four, I choose to display 6, with ECT, Diesel EOT, RPMs, Boost, Trans Temp, and Mod Volts. Once my EGT probe arrives I'll change one of the above for it....probably drop the RPMs....I was using that to check my High Idle Mod.

 

I like the edge insight, and agree that you should get the EGT probe. However, keep in mind that it can only monitor what your vehicle allows it to monitor. Just because they advertise 100 parameters that doesn't mean you can monitor all 100. For example, I would love to monitor fuel pressure but I do not have that ability. Is your truck programmed/tuned? If not, IMO it is not really worth the expense unless you just want it.

BRANDON
06 F250 PSD CC 4X4 FX4 XLT
SCT (DP TUNER)/EDGE INSIGHT MONITOR
ZOODAD MOD/REAR AIR BAGS
35X12.5X20 NITTO MUD GRAPPLERS
XD MONSTERS WHEELS

 

Actually, I really don't believe that just because your truck isn't tuned that it's not important to know what's going on with your engine or transmission. Given the finicky nature of our engines and daily duties our trucks can endure I can think of 4 areas of monitoring that would benefit. How about EOT and ECT? Those are two temps that shouldn't be too far out of range with each other...if your EOT goes 15 Degrees above your ECT than you have an issue that probably means your oil cooler is probably plugged or toasted. The two others for a stock 6.0 I would say are EGT and Tranny temps, especially if the person tows, lives in mountainous regions or just drives through the mountains. By no means am I an expert on this subject, but I do know that modding an engine with performance measures is not the only reason for knowing what's going on inside your 10K+ engine.

Mike

 

What he said...also keeping an eye on voltage....these trucks are very persnickity on voltage draw and usage....the FICM has failed on numerous accounts due to poor charging and starting systems voltage levels....usually resulting in dead batteries...then fried FICM. This device makes it easy to keep a constant eye on Volts.

 

That's because your truck does not have it in it's PCM. There isn't anything that will allow you to monitor Fuel PSI with a 6.0, because the support on the truck isn't there.

Also, its not that the truck won't allow you to monitor various sensors, it's because the software on the Insight can't get to them all. There are 460+ sensors alone on the powertrain module and I have access to them all with both the DashDAQ and the AutoEnginuity software. Now there are also 8 other modules that our trucks have(although the sensors on those are far less(one I think has 32, can't remember the others) as well for even more sensors that with AutoEnginuity you can get. So it isn't the fact that the truck won't let you get, it's because what software you have can't get to it, not that you can't get it, or it isn't there in the first place(as in the case of Fuel PSI).





I disagree with that. These trucks have numerous trouble areas and/or failings in stock form that gauges make it easier to both spot and help with diagnosing those troubles before they become big costly troubles(even more then they are in the beginning(if that's possible)).

I would have never known about my fuel pump going out on this truck as lose of power is indicative of so many things until the fuel pump was totally shot and then I would have to worry about other issues due to a totally failed fuel pump(injectors being one) and I would have probably been able to spot the tranny going out on my last truck if I had a tranny gauge.

Even if these trucks didn't have issues in stock form, I firmly believe in gauges on stock or modified trucks, especially if they are used as trucks, now if it's just a DD and travel vehicle with no load, that might be a different story(might).

 

Up to 15 degrees is fine, it's above 15 degress is where the issue is and typically we are talking 20-25 degrees above.

 

Thanks Tex!

I just thought I had read somewhere about a Ford Statement on 15 Degrees. Ya Know, being born blonde and being polish ain't easy ya know! We all have to be kept inline sometimes!

 

Oh wow, a double whammy huh.

 

And never mind the mild traumatic brain injuries from getting rocked by mortars, rockets and IED's in Iraq. But ya know, I do well, can wrench my own truck normally (Thank God for power tools!) and help friends with theirs!

I'll keep those numbers you posted in mind. I'm looking into getting the Spartan Phalanx for my truck so as I do upgrades and I can get the Phalanx upgraded along with it!

As always, thanks for your input and Keep Me Straight! Not easy being the new guy here! LOL

Mike

 

I would have never known about my fuel pump going out on this truck as lose of power is indicative of so many things until the fuel pump was totally shot and then I would have to worry about other issues due to a totally failed fuel pump(injectors being one)

Could you please explain how your edge insight helped you determine your fuel pump was going out. Was it a code or something? What parameter do you monitor that indicates this problem? Maybe I need to be looking at something different.

BRANDON
06 F250 PSD CC 4X4 FX4 XLT
SCT (DP TUNER)/EDGE INSIGHT MONITOR
ZOODAD MOD/REAR AIR BAGS
35X12.5X20 NITTO MUD GRAPPLERS
XD MONSTERS WHEELS

 

He knew because his Tuner (Spartan Phalanx/Dasdaq) can read the code for the fuel system while the Edge Insight can not. Not all tuner/monitors are created equal. The Spartan Phalanx is close to the best as far as tunability and monitoring.

BUT, with that in mind...it's one of the highest priced!

And I'm going to pay for that piece of mind when I get mine.

Mike

 

I see, I will check into a new (more detailed) monitoring system. The insight provides good info, but in addition to ECT, EOT, and EGT I am also interested in my fuel system. Not to mention the speedo cal that AutoEnginuity appears to do.