Edge Insight
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It will provide display of all PIDs that are vital to your 6.0L 03-07...not sure about other years, but it will not provide fuel pressure...you could always just tap into the fuel pressure testing port on the top fuel filter housing and have a static analogue gauge there to check periodically whenever you lift the hood...that's probably what I'll do anyway...easy and keeps mechanical pressure reading in engine bay where it belongs. If you're looking for clean set up that offers a multitude of data and want to keep your pillar grab handle...this is the unit for you. Simple, easy, affordable, and most importantly...accurate.
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On their website it only mentions "more then 100 different vehicle parameters", in the enhanced powertrain module alone there are 460+ sensors to pull from. All of those are vital in some form or fashion, they just might be lower on the priority then the others depending on the knowledge and skill of the person using the equipment.
.you could always just tap into the fuel pressure testing port on the top fuel filter housing and have a static analogue gauge there to check periodically whenever you lift the hood...that's probably what I'll do anyway...easy and keeps mechanical pressure reading in engine bay where it belongs.
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tex...thanks for enlightening us on what I left out...or on your opinion...but I think the guy was looking for simplicity and cost...you highly endorse auto-enginuiity, but everyone can't afford it, and its way overkill for the novice owner just wanting to keep ahead of certain issues. My point is to help a guy with a question...that's what I do and will continue to do...I know Edge Insight...I have one... so my testimony is based on fact...I don't have Auto-Enginuity...but hope to some day. I'm pretty sure Ryanr could get by with the Insight. The fuel pressure, well, thats a different concern. Your method works better, of course, just alot more work and cost invloved...but Ryanr may feel he needs one...if so, I suggest either way as long as you get the most out of it. Good luck with your upgrades Ryanr.
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Thanks for the info guys.I would really like some info on all available vitals that the insight actually displays.This dash daq that tex speaks of what vitals does it display,and how does it mount.Thankyou.
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I have an edge with attitude I pulled for that reason ,, I asked edge if I could use the same gauge and just buy the insight harness and whether it would leave a footprint ,, but they weren't cool enough to respond to the email
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Ryanr...here are the gauges I wanted while dreaming up a wish-list long ago...and I was originally going to go with traditional analogue gauges...EGT, ECT, EOT, Volts, Tranny, Boost, Rear Diff, Fuel Pressure. I knew the Insight wouldn't help with the Fuel pres or Rear Diff, but everything else is covered...and all for $360 (Insight w/optional EGT probe)....I'm guessing you've done some research and seen the price of the DashDaq..$$$ wow. Very nice, but, wow$$$. What parameters are you wanting to measure or see? What ever you think is vital to you...then go with that...you have the option of traditional analogue (mechanical or digital) or can go with a multi-PID electronic gauge. You can look at my Insight in my albums.
Zmann...I never got very far with Edge via email either...however, on two occasions when calling them, they were outstanding. I suggest you give them a call for your answer. Not familair with the Edge Attitude wiring setup, but the display unit looks identical. Does the display device have a small retangular electrical plug receiver in the back? If so, then I think it will work. The Insight simply plugs into the OBDII port and then into the back of the unit...that's it...no wiring, no fuses, etc.. I'd give them a call..
Zmann...I never got very far with Edge via email either...however, on two occasions when calling them, they were outstanding. I suggest you give them a call for your answer. Not familair with the Edge Attitude wiring setup, but the display unit looks identical. Does the display device have a small retangular electrical plug receiver in the back? If so, then I think it will work. The Insight simply plugs into the OBDII port and then into the back of the unit...that's it...no wiring, no fuses, etc.. I'd give them a call..
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I would not give ford a reason to deny warranty...every place is different...the Insight is nothing more than a visual display of what your PCM is telling you...basically a glorified scan-gauge....only I love it. I would remove it temporarily...I would also return my flash to stock and clear the capacitors...but I won't be taking it to ford any more for warranty work, so...not too worried about it on my end...I have an extended warranty package, but it doesn't have to be serviced at ford.
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You can get AutoEnginuity from ITP diesel for 341.95 and that includes the Ford Enhancement: ITP Diesel, LLC
Also the DashDAQ has the ability to expand to also incorporate Fuel PSI, EGT and other analog parameters as well all on the DashDAQ gauge. I also want to stress that this is without the Spartan tuning software as well, just the DashDAQ itself. As to how it is mounted, I did a custom mount that you can see in my photo section in the folder "Beta Spartan..". You can do something along the lines of a "Pro-fit" holder as well, those are relatively cheap to get and easy to install(I use to use them for phone mounts). What comes with it is one of the crappy cups that I never can get to stay on, but there are options around it.
Also the DashDAQ has the ability to expand to also incorporate Fuel PSI, EGT and other analog parameters as well all on the DashDAQ gauge. I also want to stress that this is without the Spartan tuning software as well, just the DashDAQ itself. As to how it is mounted, I did a custom mount that you can see in my photo section in the folder "Beta Spartan..". You can do something along the lines of a "Pro-fit" holder as well, those are relatively cheap to get and easy to install(I use to use them for phone mounts). What comes with it is one of the crappy cups that I never can get to stay on, but there are options around it.
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I would not give ford a reason to deny warranty...every place is different...the Insight is nothing more than a visual display of what your PCM is telling you...basically a glorified scan-gauge....only I love it. I would remove it temporarily...I would also return my flash to stock and clear the capacitors...but I won't be taking it to ford any more for warranty work, so...not too worried about it on my end...I have an extended warranty package, but it doesn't have to be serviced at ford.
I did discharge the caps when I pulled the programmer and I just run stock now ,,sucks.. but I did love having the gauge also thanks for the info
I have 38k 0n my o6 so along with an ext warranty I have some time to go on the oem motor warranty
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I agree the dashdaq is slick.What parameters must be installed in order to monitor fuel pressure with dashdaq.Iam set on having fuel pressure,and voltage.And also many other vitals.I really appreciate the help,thankyou.
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What you would need to do to monitor the analog gauges, this is if you are wanting more then one add-on to hookup to the DashDAQ, is get the "widgets(what they call the probes)" and run all the lines to what I would call a "hub(think USB hub)" and that will convert all the feeds to one output wire to hook up in the back of the DashDAQ itself. The hub is typically mounted under the hood somewhere. I believe you do need to get some firmware updates to let the DashDAQ "know" that it has analog sensors and which ones, but that should be easy enough. There are people on the forum here that have done the widgets and they could help you out with more info on that. That's it in the broadstrokes.
