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Old Dec 2, 2009 | 02:38 AM
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E-code headlights?

In Europe you have to change the original DOT-code headlights (and all other lights as well) to european spec headlights. That means there must be E-code on the lens of headlight.

Usually people use self-made headlights using Hella components and that's what I did also - it needs a lot work to make them look nice. So I just wanted to know if there is a company that makes E-code headlights so that you don't have to make them self? Or has Ford made also E-code headlights so you could get factory headlights with E-code?

Here's the look of my Ex with european lights and I don't like the look at all... would like to have 2005 style headlights...

 
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Old Dec 2, 2009 | 04:58 PM
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Someone will chime in to correct me, but I do not beleive there were any SuperDuty trucks sold in Europe, so there probably aren't any E-Code headlamps in existence.

There may have been rescue equipment trucks sold in Europe, but those usually have the standard rectangular headlamps like you have already.

Unfortunatly, you are probably looking at a very custom project.

I do agree that the US light rules are antiquated and the US should adopt the E-Code, but I doubt our beaurocrocy would every let it happen.

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Old Dec 3, 2009 | 04:05 AM
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Yes that's what I thought also, just wanted to make sure.. So I just have to buy 2005 headlights from Ebay and do some cutting to put round E-code Hella lights inside those DOT lights... like this:



and now we have a great headlight that meet european regulations when you register a truck for road use in Finland...isn't it crazy here in Europe
 
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Old Dec 3, 2009 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Suomi Powerstroke

and now we have a great headlight that meet european regulations when you register a truck for road use in Finland...isn't it crazy here in Europe
So you imported your Excursion to Finland?? I thought you were just installing E-codes here in the US (illegally) to improve your lighting.

US lighting regulations suck.
 
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Old Dec 3, 2009 | 01:55 PM
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Where do you park that Excursion in Finland? I assume Finland is like Germany for parking spaces--very tight!
 
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Old Dec 3, 2009 | 03:46 PM
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Yes I have imported the Excursion to Finland, just would like to make better looking headlights

And yes it is very tight when you park the car in Finland, parking slots are very narrow/short for a car this big.. And you can only dream about going to underground parking halls or towers where maximum height is 2 meters.. and there the slots are even more tight.

Good thing is it's easy to find the car on supermarket parking area among all the smaller european and japanese cars

But I love big american trucks, I don't mind if it is not always easy to park it Also I live on countryside so I don't have drive in a city so much.
 
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Old Dec 25, 2009 | 06:34 PM
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Hi, I stumbled upon this thread via a totally unrelated search, but I happen to be able to answer: the European-spec front lights you're seeking do exist. They are manufactured by Valeo-Cibie of Brazil (where European lighting regulations are used). They make several versions of the headlight, roughly similar to the US-market styling variants, and for the early 2-piece design they offer both amber and clear turn signal lights. Their Ford truck models are named differently down there; they've got the F250-F350, but also "F1000 - F4000". Fortunately there are photos so you can see which front-end variant is which. Their catalog and new-releases supplement are here and here, respectively (PDF). You can see the various headlight options as well as the F-series European rear lamp (with amber turn signal). As for actually getting the lamps...that will be a bit of a challenge. In the early 1990s I got a set of the big square European-code H4 headlights and the 3-color rear lights from Cibie of Brazil for my '88 F250. They fit right in place of the original US lights, they made a giant improvement, and for the life of me I cannot remember how I got a hold of them! Although Valeo is a European company, their European operations don't/can't/won't supply lights made by Valeo Brazil :-( But if you're determined enough, it shouldn't be impossible to find a way to get them.

As for the rear lights, that is functionally easy; you just need a set of the U.S. '92-'96 E-series van rear lamps. These have 3 sections (amber, red, white), see image here. They fit right in place and would just have to be wired up. However, they don't have the (E) code marking.

Hope this helps!
 
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Old Dec 26, 2009 | 08:23 AM
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Don't know if this helps, but here is one from Ebay Brazil


Have google translate the page.

MercadoLivre: * FAROL F-250 * MODELO DO NOVO! ORIGINAL SERVE EM TODAS!!!!! - R$ 370.99
 
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Old Dec 26, 2009 | 10:21 AM
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Great! Thank you for that information Scheinwerfermann :-) I'll try to find a way to get them from Brazil, maybe by Ebay like "housedad" suggested. Thanks!
 
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Old Dec 26, 2009 | 11:48 AM
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If you do this, shop carefully to make sure you are getting real Valeo-Cibie lights. It seems there are a lot of questionable-quality aftermarket non-E-code replacements on the Brazilian market. Here is an example ad for a Valeo-Cibie light unit. But I don't know that shopping via MercadoLivre ("Brazilian eBay") is going to be the easiest way to get these lights out of Brazil. The buying procedure on the South American eBay affiliate sites like MercadoLivre is more complex than it is on the US or European eBay sites. Anyhow, the lights exist, and that's the tough part; now you just have to get them.
 
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