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Old Nov 28, 2009 | 05:43 PM
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Motor mount cross reference question

I have a 76 camper special f250 with no engine or trans at my disposal... I also have a 460/c6 out of a lincoln.

My question is this. The f250 originally came with an FE engine in it.


are the frame mounts the same for the 460/FE motors.. or will i have to fab my own frame mounts and use parts store 460 rubber motor mounts?

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Old Nov 29, 2009 | 04:15 PM
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The mount towers are different between the FE and the 460. You can fab your own or go with the aftermarket.
 
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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 08:51 AM
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i just stuffed a linclon motor in to a 78 150 i had to cut a notch in the mount that is bolted to the frame on the driver side. the next thing thats a pain was to find the proper motor mount i had to get one that closely fit my block and then drill one more hole to make fit. my expert napa manager thanks to him got us the motor mount after three trys. also you will have a very tight fit on your passanger side between the starter and the manifold.
 
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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 10:08 AM
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( Dentside ) trucks came with ' 460 " You will find the motor towers/mounts factory installed and

there is no reason to fab the mounts ,unless you just want to ! That 460 will bolt right in ( 65-79 )

using dentside 460 parts .



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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 10:43 AM
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As Wally stated above, 1973/79 F100/350's (all 2WD's) came with 460 engines.

The following parts are specific to 1973/79 F100/350's with 460's. These parts are all obsolete, the part numbers are only listed to ID which parts are which.

D3TZ6028A .. Right Engine Support // D3TZ6029A .. Left Engine Support

D3TZ6030A .. Right Engine Bracket * // D3TZ6031A .. Left Engine Bracket *

2) D3TZ6038A .. Right/Left Engine Rubber Insulators

D3TZ6A023A .. Rear Engine Mounting Bracket aka Crossmember-Bolts in.

D3TZ6068A .. Rear Engine Rubber Insulator

* These two brackets bolt to the block, the rubber insultors bolt to them, then to the engine supports (aka towers, stands, perches).

FTE sponsor Mikes Truck Salvage (FTE user name: Mikestrucks) may have all these parts, he is located in South Carolina.

Note: 1975/91 Econolines with 460's use different parts, these will not work on 1973/79 F100/350's.

460 Passenger Car mounts and insulators are not the same as 460 1973/79 F100/350 parts.
 
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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 11:52 AM
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the linclon motors sit lower than a stock ford 460 thats why you have to cut the mount and the motor mounts are diffrent than a ford 460
 
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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Garth Brooks
the lincoln motors sit lower than a stock ford 460 thats why you have to cut the mount and the motor mounts are diffrent than a ford 460
The Lincoln (and other passenger cars) engine block is the exact same thing as was used in 1973/79 F100/350's.

You don't have to cut ANYTHING!! All one needs is the 1973/79 F100/350 460 engine mounting parts to install a 429 or a 460 into a 1967/79 F100/350 2WD.

Looong before there were all the various aftermarket companies selling 460 mounts, Ford dealers sold these 1973/79 mounts to anyone that was planning this swap.

I sold so many of these parts...that I memorized the part numbers...over 30 years ago.
 
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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 12:35 PM
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Dang Garth Brooks, you should stick to singing crappy songs.
 
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There are lots of ways to do it... you can do as Bill said and get the stock 460 mounts from somewhere or you can go to broncograveyard.com they have everything needed to do a 460 swap. L & L Products also has the stuff...I hear their good but have never worked with them.

I will be doing a 460 swap sometime and will try either of the first 2.
 
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I'm thinking stock 460 mounts will not work or there would be no reason to pay $130 for CONVERSION mounts when you could just get aftermarkets for a third of that.
 
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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Blown 331
I'm thinking stock 460 mounts will not work or there would be no reason to pay $130 for CONVERSION mounts when you could just get aftermarkets for a third of that.
STOCK 460 supports (aka towers, stands, perches) from 1973/79 460 F100/350's bolt right on to 1967/79 F100/350's.

There is no cutting, no welding required.

The 1973/79 F100/350 engine block to insulator brackets and rubber insulators, crossmember and its insulator will also work just fine without any trouble at all.

However...1968/78 Passenger Car & 1975 and later Econoline 460 engine mounts/insulators will not work in 1967/79 F100/350's.
 
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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 01:55 PM
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Any idea if an engine mount from a 1979 F-250 2wd with a 460 will work to swap a 460 in place of a 351 in a 79 4x4? I'm guessing no, or like I said above, there would be no need for the conversion mounts.
 
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Originally Posted by Blown 331
Any idea if an engine mount from a 1979 F-250 2wd with a 460 will work to swap a 460 in place of a 351 in a 79 4x4? I'm guessing no, or like I said above, there would be no need for the conversion mounts.
The two rubber insulators (D3TZ6038A) and the two engine block to insulator brackets (D3TZ6030A right & D3TZ6031A left) will work to install a 460 into a 1967/79 4WD, but...

The 2WD 460 supports won't work because there is no crossmember to bolt them to.

The 4WD engine supports bolt to the frame rails.

There were no 460's available with 4WD until 1983, and these parts will not work on 1979 or earlier F100/350's.
 
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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 05:59 PM
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Thanks a lot guys... very informative!
 
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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 07:21 PM
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so in the case of a 4wd truck i told u what you have to do
 
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