E4OD compatibility
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E4OD compatibility
I've got a 90 full size Bronco with a 4.9 six and an E4OD trans. I'm Planning on building a Bronco II V-8 and would like to use the E40D and transfer case from the 90 full size. does anyone know if the trans will bolt up to a small block (5.0/5.8)
I plan on a full body off swap and a 3-4 inch body lift for clearance issues.and can use any other parts from the full size as needed, any input would be appreciated
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Rob
I plan on a full body off swap and a 3-4 inch body lift for clearance issues.and can use any other parts from the full size as needed, any input would be appreciated
Thanks
Rob
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The E4OD works with both engines, i don't think that will be an issue (unless the jacket is different, and i think it isn't), but the Ecu might not like the swap, you'll need to have the proper Ecu that matches both the V8 and the gearbox. Also... i personally wouldn't swap bodies (if i got that right), that seems like a heck of a job to get done, many linkages will need to be stretched, and that will be the smaller of your troubles.
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I know it'll be a big project but it would be fun and a good way to spend time with my gearhead kid. I would get an ecu from a full size with the proper eng. trans combo and probably bring it to a tuner for
touch ups when complete, just in the planning stages right now though, thanks for the info.
Rob
touch ups when complete, just in the planning stages right now though, thanks for the info.
Rob
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Oh, I misunderstood what you meant, I'm going to take the body off the bronco II, fit the engine & trans, etc. to the Bronco II chassis, then reinstall the body with the lift kit, I've heard 3-4" covers all or most clearance problems with heater & A/C and trans tunnel, I was wondering if the Dana 44 from the full size can be mated to the Bronco II (both f. & r) axles from the full size, they are in good shape, I know the rear axle is a bit too wide but I guess it could be narrowed, this way keeping the gearing matched, just not much left of the body of the full size
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a 2" body lift is all that is needed to fit a 302 v8 in there. the e4od is long and you would also have to run a bronco/f150 8.8 because that tranny needs the pulse signal from the tone ring that is located in the rear diff. also this tranny if it goes belly up is anywhere from 1800-3200 for a rebuild.
I suggest you find an AOD if you want overdrive and isnt controlled by the computer which is best. there is no tuning for ford speed density efi which most broncos are unless you get wiring from a 94+, otherwise a C6 would be best as its bulletproof and cheap to rebuild.
get explorer D35 TTB for the front and grab the 8.8 rear from the explorer that has disc brakes. dont run the bronco axles unless you plan on turning this into a wheeler.
DO NOT run a 3-4" body lift. its dangerous and ugly to say the least.
I suggest you find an AOD if you want overdrive and isnt controlled by the computer which is best. there is no tuning for ford speed density efi which most broncos are unless you get wiring from a 94+, otherwise a C6 would be best as its bulletproof and cheap to rebuild.
get explorer D35 TTB for the front and grab the 8.8 rear from the explorer that has disc brakes. dont run the bronco axles unless you plan on turning this into a wheeler.
DO NOT run a 3-4" body lift. its dangerous and ugly to say the least.
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I appreciate all the input, I was going to use the E4OD for its strength, the fact that I have one with low miles on it with the transfer case and the 8.8 axle albeit from a full size. but now I'm not so sure about doing any of this
Thanks
Rob
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Rob
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a bronco II is a very light rig. the e4od would be over kill and honestly the e4od didnt see major improvments in its design till 93. any model prior had design flaws which prompted failure early in its life.
for this rig an AOD would be perfect if you want the OD feature and hold up well behind a 302.
for this rig an AOD would be perfect if you want the OD feature and hold up well behind a 302.
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The AOD would also save you the headache of finding a PCM to "drive" the electronics in an E4OD. Wouldn't matter what engine you put in front of it. You would just need the TV (throttle valve) cable components for which ever motor you use. The TV cable controls downshift parameters.
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I'm still trying to convince the kid to just do the body work on the full size, 300 6cyl, complete new front end and axles, recent trans, runs great , not too fast but will just about climb a tree, we'll see what he changes his to mind to this week
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he has a great combo of a rig there. i would go mild with the fullsize and tell him to use it for towing a BII to play with. the BII with a 2.9 v6, explorer D35 front and 8.8 rear end is a great combo and would make a great wheeler. i plan on going this route also once i can locate a BII for a decent price.
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yeah kemical is right about the e4od and needing a 8.8" rear axle... Theres a little sensor with two plugs on the top of the pumpkin that tells your tranny a whole **** load of stuff... and speedometer.
mine went bad and each time id go to pass someone or race i would mash it and it would downshift for a sec, then completley kick out of gear! bringing me up to 6k on complete accident...bad...
plus i got a fatass ticket cuz my speedo only worked when it wanted to...new sensor, no problems...
someone said that pre-93 e4od's had problems... he is right... however my 92 has 153k miles and has had a 6" lift and 35"+ tires since 85k..... so, they are a reall tough tranny.. thats with 4.56 gears tho...
mine went bad and each time id go to pass someone or race i would mash it and it would downshift for a sec, then completley kick out of gear! bringing me up to 6k on complete accident...bad...
plus i got a fatass ticket cuz my speedo only worked when it wanted to...new sensor, no problems...
someone said that pre-93 e4od's had problems... he is right... however my 92 has 153k miles and has had a 6" lift and 35"+ tires since 85k..... so, they are a reall tough tranny.. thats with 4.56 gears tho...
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