Should I ever get a diesel?
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11-16-2009, 06:50 PM
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Should I ever get a diesel?
Ok guys I would like to know if I should ever get a diesel? I dont tow or haul anything yet but I do take cross country trips two times a year and really like the power of diesels but I wouldn't drive it much other than trips I take.
Why is it bad to let diesels sit without driving them?
Thanks ~Gage~
Why is it bad to let diesels sit without driving them?
Thanks ~Gage~
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11-20-2009, 07:56 AM
Ok guys I would like to know if I should ever get a diesel? I dont tow or haul anything yet but I do take cross country trips two times a year and really like the power of diesels but I wouldn't drive it much other than trips I take.
Why is it bad to let diesels sit without driving them?
Thanks ~Gage~
Why is it bad to let diesels sit without driving them?
Thanks ~Gage~
Now if you are towing a substantial amount (10kish+) cross country a few times a year, I would look at a diesel pretty hard. I hope this helps; GL with whatever you decide.
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11-20-2009, 06:55 PM
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11-21-2009, 10:31 AM
6.0's are known to have problems with turbo vanes sticking due to lack of use. Agree with the others, as much as I love my diesel, if you're only gonna use it a couple times a year, you're better off with a gasser. That said, if you do go out and buy a diesel, you'll probably wind up driving it a lot more than you think. You get a decent tuner on a TD and tromp on it good a few times, you'll never go back to spark plugs again
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11-22-2009, 03:32 PM
I could not find the posts, but there have been several guys with that problem.
The only one I know by name is Crazy001.
His truck sat on the lot for a month and a valve stuck.
They had to put a new motor in before he ever got the truck.
The only one I know by name is Crazy001.
His truck sat on the lot for a month and a valve stuck.
They had to put a new motor in before he ever got the truck.
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11-22-2009, 04:11 PM
Ok guys I would like to know if I should ever get a diesel? I dont tow or haul anything yet but I do take cross country trips two times a year and really like the power of diesels but I wouldn't drive it much other than trips I take.
Why is it bad to let diesels sit without driving them?
Thanks ~Gage~
Why is it bad to let diesels sit without driving them?
Thanks ~Gage~
If for some reason you actually need a pickup truck style then I would just get a f150 as the 5.4 engines aren't bad in those and you'll have a full size truck. If I'm just going strickly on two cross country trips a year, then a diesel for sure isn't worth it, and in my mind a v10 isn't either. This is just me though, take it for what it is worth(which for some people isn't much).
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11-22-2009, 05:27 PM
My truck was built 3/08 and I purchased it 4/09. November of 2008 it was dealer traded to the dealer I bought it from. On the way in the CEL came on and the engine started behaving badly. They got it in with a "popping" sound coming from the intake and various trouble codes present on the PCM. They ended up replacing the entire engine before I ever set eyes on it. They also neglected to tell me about it until I came back in with an OASIS report and in a bad mood....
Anyway, I spoke with the tech that did the engine swap for about 20 minutes one day, and he told me that dealers were advised to start all 6.4L trucks and warm them up to operating temps at least once a month to avoid valve train corrosion and sticking valves. Apparently Dick Clark Ford in Wapakoneta, OH didn't get the memo.
Here's a quote from a Ford diesel tech responding to someone else's question regarding this issue:
Nick, I am curious as to the mileage on your truck. Over the years I have seen several engines with valves sticking in the cylinder head in the 7.3L, 6.0L and the 6.4L. All were low mileage trucks and two were brand new units in our stock lot. I recall one coming off the carrier popping out the intake.
This happens due to rust build up on the valve stem. Believe it not not the valve guides and stems run with very little lubrication. Trucks that sit stored for extended periods are susceptible to rust developing on exhaust valves that are open while the engine is running and the guide gums up, the valve begins to stick and eventually contacts the piston. I don't think I have ever heard of a diesel floating a valve.
In all of the cases I have seen there was only a mark in the piston and none required bottom end repairs. Additional damage has only been limited to broken or bent push rods and rocker arms. I have repaired all of them by using a transmission valve body hone to clean the valve guide and replacing the valve, push rod and rocker on the affected cylinders. All of my repairs have been successful and none have had repeat failures.
This happens due to rust build up on the valve stem. Believe it not not the valve guides and stems run with very little lubrication. Trucks that sit stored for extended periods are susceptible to rust developing on exhaust valves that are open while the engine is running and the guide gums up, the valve begins to stick and eventually contacts the piston. I don't think I have ever heard of a diesel floating a valve.
In all of the cases I have seen there was only a mark in the piston and none required bottom end repairs. Additional damage has only been limited to broken or bent push rods and rocker arms. I have repaired all of them by using a transmission valve body hone to clean the valve guide and replacing the valve, push rod and rocker on the affected cylinders. All of my repairs have been successful and none have had repeat failures.
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11-22-2009, 09:02 PM
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If I didnt own my F'ver camper I wouldnt own a diesel pick.the inital cost at purchase ,plus the higher maintence cost are not worth it for a daily driver.as for durability the 5.4 and v-10 will last just as long as the diesel engines.
Also in my opinion it is bad to let any vehicle sit for long periods of time.
Also in my opinion it is bad to let any vehicle sit for long periods of time.
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