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Old Nov 12, 2009 | 01:46 AM
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"A" intake question

So a friend gave me an A model intake with the old tea pot 4bbl carb. I know the carbs are crap, but I found an adapter plate that fit the intake making it able to mount a holley 4bbl carb. Has anyone done this? Has anyone got any input on how it would work or run? I got all the parts for free so I thought I'd give it a try.
 
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Old Nov 12, 2009 | 05:31 AM
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Originally Posted by salf100
So a friend gave me an A model intake with the old tea pot 4bbl carb. I know the carbs are crap, but I found an adapter plate that fit the intake making it able to mount a holley 4bbl carb. Has anyone done this? Has anyone got any input on how it would work or run? I got all the parts for free so I thought I'd give it a try.
What the hello is a A model intake or a tea pot carb? Are you British or something? Don't think any of out trucks use A model parts, besides I never heard of anyone using a 4 barrel on an A model car.



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Old Nov 12, 2009 | 06:48 AM
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If he has a Y Block, the ECZ-9425-A manifold is a 4v manifold for use with a teapot carburetor.
 
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Old Nov 12, 2009 | 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by jowilker
What the hello is a A model intake or a tea pot carb? Are you British or something? Don't think any of out trucks use A model parts, besides I never heard of anyone using a 4 barrel on an A model car. John
John: Guess you don't speak "Y-block". Remember, there are other engines used in out trucks other than the FE's. For more information: Y-BlocksForever Forum

SALF100 (and JOWILKER too!): As Charlie said the "A" referrs to the number on the manifold (part#/casting #?). ECZ-9425-A is a 56 and earlier manifold and the ECZ-9425-B is for 57 and newer Y-blocks. The "A" will work fine with an adapter, but the "B" is the preferred intake for better performance as it flows much better. "A" manifolds usually go for $50 bucks or so, and the "B" models go for between $100-150.
 
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Old Nov 12, 2009 | 01:50 PM
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John: Guess you don't speak "Y-block". Remember, there are other engines used in out trucks other than the FE's.
hoss, you need to jump back through your number dummy window, and do it quickly.

While you are very correct that my knowledge for prehistoric V8s is very limited, starting a new thread "So a friend gave me an A model intake with the old tea pot 4bbl carb." isn't very resourceful. OK?

The Model A is a Ford car that put ol Henry on the map, an tea cups is is a Brit thang.


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Old Nov 12, 2009 | 03:49 PM
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Responding to the above reply is somewhat like arguing with my dog, but I'll give it a shot.

Originally Posted by jowilker
hoss, you need to jump back through your number dummy window, and do it quickly.
Hmmm, that sounds like a threat. What's the time limit? And what's the penalty if I don't? BTW: That information doesn't require any "book looking". It's common knowledge. Also, it's my understanding that the purpose of the site is to share information about Ford trucks. One way to get information is to ask questions.

While you are very correct that my knowledge for prehistoric V8s is very limited, starting a new thread "So a friend gave me an A model intake with the old tea pot 4bbl carb." isn't very resourceful. OK?
Sorry, I didn't get the memo making you responsible for determining the "resourcefulness" ??? or the validity of a thread. Congratulations on your appointment. Hope it pays well. The OP had a legitimate question and received an honest and accurate answer

The Model A is a Ford car that put ol Henry on the map, an tea cups is is a Brit thang. John

I can only hope this an attempt at humor. If it is, it falls considerably short of it's mark. If it's not, you have my sympathy.
 
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Old Nov 12, 2009 | 06:08 PM
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thanks for the answer and the back-up gritz!
 
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Old Nov 12, 2009 | 07:37 PM
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When looking for an adapter, try to find one with bores that match the manifold. I don't know if they even exist but it will allow you to better "match" the carburetor to the manifold. The bores on the carb may be larger and so the smaller bores in the adapter will allow you to taper the adapter so that the transition from the carburetor to the manifold is much smoother. Alternatively, if such an adapter does not exist, mount the adapter to the manifold and scribe a line for each bore then grind out the manifold bores to match the adapter. You want to avoid having a step under the carburetor. Doing either of these will get better power and economy. Make sure that the throttle butterflies will open fully when mounted to the adapter. And we can take it farther but with the A manifold it's really not worth the time.
Don't over-carb it. A Y rarely needs anything larger than 600cfm especially on the street. You're probably looking for something in the 390 to 500 range.
 
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Old Nov 14, 2009 | 01:29 PM
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There are two different 4V intake manifolds that take the early Holley 4V.

1955: The choke is mounted on the intake manifold.

1956: The choke is mounted on the carb.

If this is the 1956 manifold, do not throw that "toilet bowl aka teapot" carb/manifold in the trash, both are very hard to find.

1956 Bird's used this same carb (B6A-9510-Q) nd manifold. Many Bird's back in the day were converted to the 1957/58 292/312 4V carb/manifold.

For concours restorations, this '56 Holley carb/manifold is in demand.

AFAIK, there is no adapter that allows the later 4V carb to fit the 1956 4V manifold.

btw: The first Ford that Henry produced was the Model A of 1903. The second Model A was introduced in 1928.

When Henry canceled the Model T in 1927, he had no new design. He shut the factory down for 9 months, the time it took him to design the new car.

Since the dealers could not get any new cars, over 3,000 of them defected to other makes, leaving Ford with only 7,000 dealers.

Ford had designed a new car in 1902, but quarreled with his financial backers and left the company before a single car was produced.

The finance ppl hired a new President and Chief Engineer, Henry Martyn Leland...who then changed the company's name.

Leland named the new company after the founder of Detroit: Walter de le Motte Cadillac. So...the Cadillac Motor Car Co. was born from the ashes of the original Ford Motor Co.

In 1916, Leland left Cadillac, started a new company to produce Liberty V12 aircraft enginee for the war effort.

Leland named his new company for his favorite president: Abraham Lincoln. In 1921, the Lincoln Motorcar was introduced. It was a mechnical marvel, but a styling disaster. Lincoln went bankrupt.

In 1922, the US Bankruptcy Court sold Lincoln for 7 million dollars to the only bidder: Henry Ford.
 
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Old Nov 14, 2009 | 05:44 PM
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Kinda old hat here gents; however the line on this was quite clear.

Hell, I'm from ND and the title made clear sense.

Salf, Where did you find an adaptor for mounting a holley std on a teapot manifold?
 
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