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Old Sep 14, 2021 | 10:33 AM
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These caught my attention when @udsuth78 recently installed them. They are reportedly made in USA.

https://kryptoniteproducts.com/colle...f350-1999-2020
 
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Old Sep 14, 2021 | 12:31 PM
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There are also ball joint eliminator kits that essentially convert to a king pin style and these are very interesting to me. I'm on my 3rd set of ball joints (xrf currently) and eliminating them all together is appealing.

https://www.hiredgunoffroad.com/prod...l_joint_delete

https://bustedknuckleoffroad.com/products/9904bje

 
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Old Sep 14, 2021 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Sous
These caught my attention when @udsuth78 recently installed them. They are reportedly made in USA.

https://kryptoniteproducts.com/colle...f350-1999-2020
Yeah, so far I've been pleased w/ them. What really caught my eye and eventually sold me on them is there warranty.

"(Kryptonite No Fine Print Lifetime warranty)-Kryptonite steering and suspension components are warrantied for life to their original purchaser. This warranty is against any manufacturer defects, premature wear or breakage. Race it, jump it, off road it, sled pull it, wreck it, lift it, level it, lower it, I think you get it? We don’t care. If you can break it we will replace it. Kryptonite products must be purchased from an authorized dealer."

I went and checked my email for dates and I bought them in late March so they've been going for about 5 months now. That beats the first 2 sets of Spicier units I installed.




 
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Old Sep 14, 2021 | 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by SRBF150
There are also ball joint eliminator kits that essentially convert to a king pin style and these are very interesting to me. I'm on my 3rd set of ball joints (xrf currently) and eliminating them all together is appealing.

https://www.hiredgunoffroad.com/prod...l_joint_delete

https://bustedknuckleoffroad.com/products/9904bje
I’ve been wanting to do a kingpin conversion too.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2021 | 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by SRBF150
There are also ball joint eliminator kits that essentially convert to a king pin style and these are very interesting to me. I'm on my 3rd set of ball joints (xrf currently) and eliminating them all together is appealing.

https://www.hiredgunoffroad.com/prod...l_joint_delete

https://bustedknuckleoffroad.com/products/9904bje
would be nice to hear some long term reviews of either of these.
ball joints aren't that expensive it's the time/labor in replacing them that gets us
 
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Old Sep 14, 2021 | 08:32 PM
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What stayed my hand on a delete was the legality of them. I would find conflicting information and the last thing I'd want is to drop the coin then have to un-do everything at some point down the road. At best they're a gray area and at worst outright illegal.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2021 | 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by udsuth78
What stayed my hand on a delete was the legality of them. I would find conflicting information and the last thing I'd want is to drop the coin then have to un-do everything at some point down the road. At best they're a gray area and at worst outright illegal.
Why on earth would they be illegal?
 
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Old Sep 14, 2021 | 08:51 PM
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Because they are not what was crash tested and approved by the powers that be. If you read through most of the product descriptions of the kits they say off-road only or some variation of such. I believe there may have been 1 kit that didn't but which one escapes me at the moment.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2021 | 08:53 PM
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makes sense. tbh, I am leaning towards going back with OEM Motorcraft.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2021 | 09:21 PM
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makes sense. tbh, I am leaning towards going back with OEM Motorcraft.
If your girl is a pavement queen then they will likely serve you well. If she sees a little rough and tumble here and there I would suggest at least some comparison shopping. Of the 4 sets I've previously destroyed the Spicier units were the quickest to get their guts pounded out. Here's link to the thread I started before pulling the trigger on my current set.

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...ll-joints.html
 
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Old Sep 14, 2021 | 09:23 PM
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Just go with the Dana Spicer ball joints that Ford originally used. They are sealed/keep out ingress, no grease to worry about (don't worry, the seal will retain the grease better than a greasable one), installed properly they'll last a decade or two. Mine were USA made and priced reasonably per my recollection.
 
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Old Sep 15, 2021 | 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by queen of spades
Why on earth would they be illegal?
Depending on the state ball joints are covered in the vehicle inspection process. Here in the People's Republic errr... Commonwealth of Massachusetts, even on non-commercial inspections ball joints are inspected visually and the tires are wiggled to test for wear. If you converted to kingpins/ball joint delete there is a chance the shop could fail you since I doubt those are DOT approved. Of course that depends on how motivated the shop is. For commercial vehicles (which is GVW's over 10k or more than four tires) it costs four times as much and they break out the rubber gloves.

Some other states might be more lax.
 
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Old Sep 15, 2021 | 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by udsuth78
Yeah, so far I've been pleased w/ them. What really caught my eye and eventually sold me on them is there warranty.

"(Kryptonite No Fine Print Lifetime warranty)-Kryptonite steering and suspension components are warrantied for life to their original purchaser. This warranty is against any manufacturer defects, premature wear or breakage. Race it, jump it, off road it, sled pull it, wreck it, lift it, level it, lower it, I think you get it? We don’t care. If you can break it we will replace it. Kryptonite products must be purchased from an authorized dealer."
Is Kryptonite the manufacturer? Or is Kryptonite a marketing company and reseller?

It appears that folks on the Duramax Forum discovered that the Kryptonite ball joints for their applications were identical to MevoTech.

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I'm aggravated. I researched for a long time about what way to move with my front end rebuild. To think I was fooled by a flashy website and cool warranty nomenclature really pisses me off. I looked into the mevotech joints, mark for mark they are identical to the kryptonites I received.

At the end of the day, it's only $40. But I called dmaxstore numerous times while deciding what products to buy. I have sent them an email asking for an explanation as to how my USA made best in class LBJ's are really overpriced and made in Canada. I've had good dealings with multiple vendors from this website, I don't think i'll be using dmaxstore again. Not to mention their shipping is slow and expensive
The thread linked above suggests that Kryptonite charges a price premium for their "we don't care" warranty... over and above what one might pay for equivalent and identical ball joints from Mevotech.

Having outlived a lot of companies that offered lifetime warranties, and not relishing the work of having to repeatedly replace ball joints, even if the parts are free, I would want to look deeper into Kryptonite before buying their "line."

Not being Superman, I can stare hard, long, and unafraid.

Speaking of long, or long lasting, the current ball joints in my truck were installed in 1999, at KTP. Now approaching 22 years in service on the original set of production ball joints, I can't even imagine what a pain it must be to have to replace ball joints every 6 months. That would be 44 sets of ball joints. Yikes. Could there be another cause for frequent replacement?
 
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Old Sep 15, 2021 | 01:34 PM
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Unless a company is offering to pay for parts AND labor to replace the prematurely worn out ball joints, it's not worth it.
 
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Old Sep 15, 2021 | 01:43 PM
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Could there be another cause for the frequent replacement?


 
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