tranny cooler recommendations ?
You also have to think about geographic location. You can get some big temperature swings. Last week here in Saskatchewan. It was -5'C (23'F) in the morning and reached a high of 18'C (64'F) in the afternoon. Up a external cooler bypass is required. When it gets so cold that the fluid doesn't move through the second cooler, a pressure valve opens and the system runs completely on the radiator cooler until the fluid gets hot enough. On the freezing -35'C winter days up here you could literally cook your transmission if you added a huge tranny cooler and didn't have a bypass.
My truck will see winter duty.
the info in this thread, as well as info gathered from other places, here are my conclusions:
1- Radiator transmission cooler only = good
This is based mostly on my personal experiences with a few 200,000 mile plus vehicles with no transmission problems. Mostly highway miles, no towing, no hard driving (ok very little hard driving)
2- Radiator transmission cooler and external / auxiliary cooler = better
A must have for for towing / heavy hauling (need to add a thermostat / external cooler bypass in cold climates)
3-External / auxiliary cooler only = depends
Live in a warm climate or only drive during the summer = great (make sure cooler has proper airflow)
Live in a cold climate = bad (fluid will not reach operating temp?)
So please tell me what you think about these conclusions. Am I missing something?
Last edited by tuck1; Oct 20, 2009 at 11:31 AM. Reason: spelling
the info in this thread, as well as info gathered from other places, here are my conclusions:
1- Radiator transmission cooler only = good
This is based mostly on my personal experiences with a few 200,000 mile plus vehicles with no transmission problems. Mostly highway miles, no towing, no hard driving (ok very little hard driving)
- I'd change this to "OK".
2- Radiator transmission cooler and external / auxiliary cooler = better
A must have for for towing / heavy hauling (need to add a thermostat / external cooler bypass in cold climates)
- This to me is the way to go. Add also "for higher stall speed torque converters".
3-External / auxiliary cooler only = depends
Live in a warm climate or only drive during the summer = great (make sure cooler has proper airflow)
Live in a cold climate = bad (fluid will not reach operating temp?)
- You can add a thermostat to it for cold weather.
So please tell me what you think about these conclusions. Am I missing something?
And the conclusion to #3 to "never a good idea". Better than nothing, would be the best I'd give it. No automatic tranny specialist would ever endorse this arrangement unless he expected to be the one you end up paying to rebuild it for you. No moderation/control of the fluid temp, cannot possibly set up to cool the proper amount for the varying conditions we encounter every day. Take this example of one average trip: Good temp on a moderate day driving at steady 55 MPH, increase speed to 70 MPH and can overheat or overcool ???? Pull off the highway into stop and go traffic, fluid overheats. Attach a trailer, fluid overheats. Day turns to very cool night, fluid overcooled. Starts to rain, intercooler bathed with a continuous stream of water, fluid overcools. You would need to install a bank of intercoolers/fans/thermostats and or computerized valves/sensors to maintain the fluid temp in it's design range on just this one average trip, and if you are honest there is no such thing as an average trip.
My 1/2T pickup came from the factory with a 10K towing capacity package. Did they add an air fluid intercooler for the tranny for this severe use? Nope! They put in a larger radiator.
If this were a good idea no one would need AC/heat to heat/cool their house/vehicle. Just put a large intercooler outside and blow the inside air thru it. Laughable right? but this "option" is based on the same principle.
With all that being said I like the radiator based cooler with an added aux cooler when necessary. Throw in a temp gauge. Use a thermostat/bypass on the aux cooler if trans fluid temps get too low.
Hope I have drawn the right conclusions here but if not at least I can do my part to stimulate the economy when my transmission needs a rebuild.









