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Old 06-14-2009, 10:54 AM
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Hello: as you can see I'm a new user to this forum but not new to car / truck building. Started in 1957.the parts rebuilding ,modifying and changing is old stuff for me. As is bodywork and painting so most of the time I don't have a problem I can't solve somehow without asking sombody . I bet the problem I have has been here before but where do I look? I have a 51 f2 with a perfect radio, 6 volt pos. ground, I am not familar with pos. ground. I am changing to 12 volt neg. ground. Can I make this work safely without burning up my radio and truck ? Or should I just put a 12 volt light in it for show and tell ? The truck will not be original, it will be updated with modern guages but I like the look of the original radio . Will have 289 ,c4 , ford overdrive , or T/10 4/sp. Or 292Y block and T/10 4/sp. I have those and 460 with C/6 , I need to make up my mind soon .After reading a lot of the threads I bet there is somebody out there that can help me even if it bothers me to ask for help .
 
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Old 06-14-2009, 11:15 AM
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Jim go hunt down Jim Speckman radio . I think he is still in Floridia. You would bewise to replace the tubes with 12 V tubes and be done with the problem incured with the Variance you will have with the 6 V system. Yes you can change the polarity of the ground but since the tubes run almost 45.00 a piece sometimes , why the heck not ? Jim used to advertise heavily in Hemmings Motor News and I used to buy stuff frpm him sporaticly. Hey , got a radio from a 56 ya don't want ? Ed Shaver
 
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Old 06-14-2009, 12:07 PM
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Thanks; ED that is a lot of help I was not aware that could be done with the ground. I guess thats what I get for working on them old chevys with neg. ground. I may not be to old to learn a little about the old fords after all . How many tubes do they have ? I assume the vibrator or what ever it's called would need to be changed to ? No ,Sorry I don't have a 56 radio but I do have a 55 pasenger car round face 6/v I bought about 20 or 25 years ago and never did use. The only reason I bought it was to save it for somebody to use someday. I am thinking about putting it on ebay soon I am watching to see what they are going for.
 
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Old 06-14-2009, 04:29 PM
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If you have five pushbuttons on the front then it is the standard radio with 6 tubes. Six pushbuttons up front and it is the deluxe with 8 tubes. To convert to 12v need to change all tubes, vibrator, dial lights and have power transformer rewired. Deluxe radio pulls about 7-8 amps and the standard pulls about 5 amps if want to consider a dropping resistor or regulator. I've fixed quite a few of them but haven't done a 12v conversion yet.
 
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Old 06-14-2009, 07:43 PM
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I've seen on other forums that they don't care what voltage or polarity is fed to them, check around. Sounds hard to believe, but tubes are very different than transistors.

Edit: this seems to contradict that:
http://classiccarradiodoctor.com/6to12.htm
 
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Old 06-14-2009, 07:59 PM
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Polarity doesn't matter but voltage does.
 
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Old 06-15-2009, 01:02 PM
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Thanks everybody, I am listening, auto electrical is the part of car / truck building I'm always a little afraid of. I have installed wire kits but that is different. I saw some add where they used just the front face from older radios, maybe thats for a few different radios only. I thought the add meant they had modern parts inside, but again thanks.
 
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Old 10-20-2009, 05:12 PM
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Ran a little experiment today. Hooked up the radio to a 6 Volt battery normal polarity, that is positive ground. Turned it on with no problem. Then wired it with a negitive ground, it did'nt like that and blew the fuse.
So this information about how the radio doesn't care about polarity has been debunked.
 




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