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Old Oct 17, 2009 | 04:20 AM
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Hi, I have a friend with a 99 f350. It has a western diesel package on it, so I really don't know how many mods that is involved with that. The problem is that the TC locks and unlocks at various times over and over. He replaced the TC and it still occurs.
Has anyone ever had anything like this happen?
He has also had the solenoid pack changed as well. The tranny shop is just trying different things to try and get it to work correctly, but as we all know the $$ are adding up.
He has also added some Banks mods to the truck as well. Waste gate, chip, etc.
Any help would be appreciated.
 
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Old Oct 17, 2009 | 04:46 AM
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A burned out brake light bulb can do that. It can be in either side or the center light. It could also be a bad brake switch. As he found out it is not a problem with the torque converter. The chip is another possibility.
 
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Old Oct 17, 2009 | 05:49 AM
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A burnt out brake light? That's funny because it happens a lot when he is stopping.....lol. I'll give him a call and have him check.

How does the brake light affect the TC?

Thanks.
 
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Old Oct 17, 2009 | 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Mark Kovalsky
A burned out brake light bulb can do that. It can be in either side or the center light. It could also be a bad brake switch. As he found out it is not a problem with the torque converter. The chip is another possibility.
I am also curious about the burned out bulb, my center light has not worked in the past 8 months, and the tranny has been acting funny....I replaced the TC last night, seems to have fixed all my problems.
No more errtic shifting, no early lock up, and the knocking that I was worried about being the #8 injector, or worse being that the knocking would still be present when the injectors shut down all disapeared, and it runs like never before.
 
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Old Oct 17, 2009 | 07:43 AM
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A friends truck (02F-350) does similar,but only when O/D is locked out and loaded.Seems the heavier the load the worse it gets.Seems to start at about 50MPH
Once in O/D it is fine

BTW:He runs a Superchips programmer
 
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Old Oct 17, 2009 | 09:00 AM
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another possibility might be your trans range sensor going bad. Mine was making a bad connection where the plug pushes on the sensor; it was all green and corroded from road salt.
 
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Old Oct 17, 2009 | 03:17 PM
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Burned out brake light bulb?

Interesting!

Subscribing....

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Old Oct 18, 2009 | 05:38 AM
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The PCM monitors the brake light circuit to unlock the converter when the brakes are on. Somehow it is fooled when a bulb is burned out. I don't know how, but I've seen it happen.
 
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Old Oct 18, 2009 | 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Mark Kovalsky
The PCM monitors the brake light circuit to unlock the converter when the brakes are on. Somehow it is fooled when a bulb is burned out. I don't know how, but I've seen it happen.
there must be a delay then. My TC stays locked up when I apply my brakes until I get to a certain speed/rpm
 
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That's strange mine unlocks as soon as I touch the brake
 
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Old Oct 18, 2009 | 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Mark Kovalsky
The PCM monitors the brake light circuit to unlock the converter when the brakes are on. Somehow it is fooled when a bulb is burned out. I don't know how, but I've seen it happen.
Ford in it's seemingly unlimited capacity for doing "stupid things" programmed many PCMs to "unlock" the TC every time the service brake is applied! Not exactly the best "feature" to have when you want some "engine braking" and if you use an "exhaust brake" with this Ford provided "feature" you'll over heat the unlocked TC and burn it out!

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there must be a delay then. My TC stays locked up when I apply my brakes until I get to a certain speed/rpm
You've got the "correct" version of the PCM program!

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That's strange mine unlocks as soon as I touch the brake
You've got the "stupid" version of the PCM program!
 
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Old Oct 18, 2009 | 12:13 PM
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How do you get the " correct " version of the PCM? Do you need to have it reflashed? Thanks, Roy
 
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Old Oct 18, 2009 | 12:15 PM
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Custom tuning can override that, I'm sure.
 
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Old Oct 18, 2009 | 12:52 PM
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What is the smart version?I have several problems with the transmission I think are PCM related
 
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Old Oct 18, 2009 | 02:18 PM
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That's strange mine unlocks as soon as I touch the brake
When was you last Tuner update? Jody's newer versions will fix the lock/unlock problems.
 
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