Engine Failure Survey
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Jason I liked the 175/146 injectors they where a nice upgrade from stock. I had the stock turbo and DP tunes and could pop 30 boost. I know you can tune yours now so you could probably tweak it in even better. I also got a little better MPG with them.
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It’s great that you have designed this analyzer. Technology is so cool! It’s a step in the right direction for finding out what we attempted 2 years ago with Dennis’s engine failure survey. We would like to add, if all parties are willing, any of our chips questioned for accuracy to also be tested with our Engine Analysis Equipment. This will give 2 data points, one mathematical and one physical analysis. At that time we can compare the processes to make sure we are testing the same data points to obtain the data accurately.
We feel by offering our test equipment to the research it will complement the analyzer data due to the analyzer only seeing what points are inputted and the EA equipment pulling data that is induced.
We hope that this will encourage other companies that use special testing equipment to create and test their programming to also join in this analysis.
Jody
It’s great that you have designed this analyzer. Technology is so cool! It’s a step in the right direction for finding out what we attempted 2 years ago with Dennis’s engine failure survey. We would like to add, if all parties are willing, any of our chips questioned for accuracy to also be tested with our Engine Analysis Equipment. This will give 2 data points, one mathematical and one physical analysis. At that time we can compare the processes to make sure we are testing the same data points to obtain the data accurately.
We feel by offering our test equipment to the research it will complement the analyzer data due to the analyzer only seeing what points are inputted and the EA equipment pulling data that is induced.
We hope that this will encourage other companies that use special testing equipment to create and test their programming to also join in this analysis.
Jody
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From: Beautiful Winder, GA
From Bill:
Just an update ...
Since returning from SEMA, Corey and I have both been out with the Flu. I'm back on my feet but Corey seems to have progressed into pneumonia. This has delayed releasing the results of the survey since I simply haven't had the time to compile the data.
I will be getting everything together this weekend and will be providing our findings with the affected vendors before releasing the data. Hopefully the data will provide insight and open up discussion as to where the problems lie and how we all can avoid failures in the future.
One thing I will say is that SOI (timing) clearly plays a crucial role in most of the failures. We been able to not only run calibrations through the AnalyTune software but now have the ability to live datalog the SOI values in the <acronym title="Powertrain Control Module">PCM</acronym> and have seen SOI curves approaching 60 degrees in an actual running situation. Combine that with modified injectors and you significantly increase the chance for disaster. When you consider that the stock <acronym title="Powertrain Control Module">PCM</acronym> is only running about 20-22 degrees of timing, there is no question as to what may be the most significant contributing factor in most (if not all) of the related engine failures.
Again, I am sorry for the delay in getting the information ready and really do appreciate everyone's involvement and contributions.
Please know that we are leaving the survey open indefinitely at this point. If you would like to participate, you're welcome -- and encouraged! -- to do so!
Take care.
Just an update ...
Since returning from SEMA, Corey and I have both been out with the Flu. I'm back on my feet but Corey seems to have progressed into pneumonia. This has delayed releasing the results of the survey since I simply haven't had the time to compile the data.
I will be getting everything together this weekend and will be providing our findings with the affected vendors before releasing the data. Hopefully the data will provide insight and open up discussion as to where the problems lie and how we all can avoid failures in the future.
One thing I will say is that SOI (timing) clearly plays a crucial role in most of the failures. We been able to not only run calibrations through the AnalyTune software but now have the ability to live datalog the SOI values in the <acronym title="Powertrain Control Module">PCM</acronym> and have seen SOI curves approaching 60 degrees in an actual running situation. Combine that with modified injectors and you significantly increase the chance for disaster. When you consider that the stock <acronym title="Powertrain Control Module">PCM</acronym> is only running about 20-22 degrees of timing, there is no question as to what may be the most significant contributing factor in most (if not all) of the related engine failures.
Again, I am sorry for the delay in getting the information ready and really do appreciate everyone's involvement and contributions.
Please know that we are leaving the survey open indefinitely at this point. If you would like to participate, you're welcome -- and encouraged! -- to do so!
Take care.
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You're very welcome!
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From Bill:
One thing I will say is that SOI (timing) clearly plays a crucial role in most of the failures. We been able to not only run calibrations through the AnalyTune software but now have the ability to live datalog the SOI values in the <ACRONYM title="Powertrain Control Module">PCM</ACRONYM> and have seen SOI curves approaching 60 degrees in an actual running situation. Combine that with modified injectors and you significantly increase the chance for disaster. When you consider that the stock <ACRONYM title="Powertrain Control Module">PCM</ACRONYM> is only running about 20-22 degrees of timing, there is no question as to what may be the most significant contributing factor in most (if not all) of the related engine failures.
One thing I will say is that SOI (timing) clearly plays a crucial role in most of the failures. We been able to not only run calibrations through the AnalyTune software but now have the ability to live datalog the SOI values in the <ACRONYM title="Powertrain Control Module">PCM</ACRONYM> and have seen SOI curves approaching 60 degrees in an actual running situation. Combine that with modified injectors and you significantly increase the chance for disaster. When you consider that the stock <ACRONYM title="Powertrain Control Module">PCM</ACRONYM> is only running about 20-22 degrees of timing, there is no question as to what may be the most significant contributing factor in most (if not all) of the related engine failures.
Thanks for the update and get well soon.
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From: Beautiful Winder, GA
Just wanted to let everyone know that we are compiling the information gathered from the Engine Failure Survey now that that I'm back in the office. 
We are in the process of contacting the tuners listed on the survey to find out the number of tunes they have in service so that this information can be part of the final data.
We are also contacting survey takers by e-mail to ask them two additional -- very pertinent! -- questions that we realized should have been included.
for your patience!
We will leave this survey open until the data is posted so that anyone else who has experienced an engine failure can add his/her information!
The survey can be accessed HERE.
We are in the process of contacting the tuners listed on the survey to find out the number of tunes they have in service so that this information can be part of the final data.
We are also contacting survey takers by e-mail to ask them two additional -- very pertinent! -- questions that we realized should have been included.
for your patience!We will leave this survey open until the data is posted so that anyone else who has experienced an engine failure can add his/her information!
The survey can be accessed HERE.
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