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Old Sep 7, 2009 | 06:47 PM
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About 800 miles ago I replaced my front pads and rotors. I went with Wagner brand (it was top of the line for my local parts store). No problems until this past weekend when the passenger side started to squeal when hot with a LIGHT application of the pedal. I consider myself pretty good mechanically so I can't believe it is/was an installation issue. Again, it is only the passenger side, heated up, and only with a very light pedal. It is LOUD though. Anyone have any suggestions?
 
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Old Sep 7, 2009 | 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by rlh68050
2001 4x4 V10

About 800 miles ago I replaced my front pads and rotors. I went with Wagner brand (it was top of the line for my local parts store). No problems until this past weekend when the passenger side started to squeal when hot with a LIGHT application of the pedal. I consider myself pretty good mechanically so I can't believe it is/was an installation issue. Again, it is only the passenger side, heated up, and only with a very light pedal. It is LOUD though. Anyone have any suggestions?
Did you use any of the anti-squeal gooey stuff on the backs of the pads?
 
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Old Sep 8, 2009 | 05:22 AM
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I had this problem with the Wagner pads on my Ex. I traced it back to one of the little spring clips that holds the pad in place was making contact with the rotor when the brakes were applied. Made a very loud squeal. I should have replaced it with a new one, but i just gave it a little bend and all is well.
 
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Old Sep 8, 2009 | 06:47 AM
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DISC BRAKE SQUAL - - -
quick cheap "fix" is to take your front wheels off (so you can get at the disc surface) and sand-paper em with emery or other abrasive sand-paper to "break the glaze". This "quick cheap fix" can last as long as years of driving, or, depending on many factors, none of which I understand....could solve the problem for about three days...!
 
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Old Sep 8, 2009 | 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by gr8scott72
Did you use any of the anti-squeal gooey stuff on the backs of the pads?
Should not need with this with the Wagner pads as they have integrated shims/backing plates on each pad.
 
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Old Sep 8, 2009 | 08:24 AM
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Rob

I had this problem with the Wagner pads on my Ex. I traced it back to one of the little spring clips that holds the pad in place was making contact with the rotor when the brakes were applied. Made a very loud squeal. I should have replaced it with a new one, but i just gave it a little bend and all is well.
I will check this.
 
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Old Sep 8, 2009 | 08:25 AM
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DISC BRAKE SQUAL - - -
quick cheap "fix" is to take your front wheels off (so you can get at the disc surface) and sand-paper em with emery or other abrasive sand-paper to "break the glaze". This "quick cheap fix" can last as long as years of driving, or, depending on many factors, none of which I understand....could solve the problem for about three days...!
I have a new rotor on order. The auto parts store will replace it for me under warranty.
 
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Old Sep 8, 2009 | 08:28 AM
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Thanks for all the replies. As mentioned above, I have a new rotor on order with the auto parts store. They will replace the one under warranty. I am also planing on replacing the pads on that side too. Basically going to start over on that side to eliminate all factors.

Question: Does anyone think that there is any issue with replacing the rotor and pads on the one squeaky side and leaving the good side alone? Only 800 miles on it.
 
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You most likely wont have any issues with doing just the one side since the miles are so low. However... I'd recommend replacing both sides and using a light coating of high temp anti-seize to ensure the squeal does not come back. While you are doing both sides this gives you a chance to check the clips and also the proper operating of the caliper slides. When I do brakes - I use anti-seize on the backs of the pads, where the pads contact the caliper and also where the pads contact the caliper bracket. Any place where metal comes into contact with metal is a chance for their to be a squeal. Keep in mind a lot of times squealing is not a result of the actual pad coming into contact with the rotor - but harmonic noise/vibration as a result of all of the parts working together. When you put on new rotors - make sure you clean them well with brake clean and wipe well to ensure you have a clean surface for the pad to contact.
 
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You most likely wont have any issues with doing just the one side since the miles are so low. However... I'd recommend replacing both sides and using a light coating of high temp anti-seize to ensure the squeal does not come back. While you are doing both sides this gives you a chance to check the clips and also the proper operating of the caliper slides. When I do brakes - I use anti-seize on the backs of the pads, where the pads contact the caliper and also where the pads contact the caliper bracket. Any place where metal comes into contact with metal is a chance for their to be a squeal. Keep in mind a lot of times squealing is not a result of the actual pad coming into contact with the rotor - but harmonic noise/vibration as a result of all of the parts working together. When you put on new rotors - make sure you clean them well with brake clean and wipe well to ensure you have a clean surface for the pad to contact.
I will keep it open to doing both sides again, but it can't hurt to do just the one and see what happens. These are lifetime warranty rotors and pads so I can't loose!!
 
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Old Sep 10, 2009 | 09:14 AM
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I use the same pads and after 30,000 miles still doing well.

Make sure the slide pins are cleaned and lubed so the caliper will float.
 
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