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Old Sep 4, 2009 | 07:59 AM
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1766 HP on a pump gas engine!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJEfeFAyWLU

Sooo...tell me WHY again my engine didn't have 800 HP????
 
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Old Sep 4, 2009 | 09:01 AM
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Either their dyno is broke or they need to learn how to run it right. Total B.S.
 
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Old Sep 4, 2009 | 09:16 AM
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http://www.racingjunk.com/category/1...Falcon....html

Is this the same car?
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Old Sep 4, 2009 | 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by jwstrand
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJEfeFAyWLU

Sooo...tell me WHY again my engine didn't have 800 HP????
Because a Naturally Aspirated FE was barely breaking 750 horsepower in 1994, that is with all out race 427 Engines turning 9000 RPM with tunnel ports and dual quads and roller cams.

It is big news in 1995-1996 when an FE engine just crested 800 horsepower.

It wasn't until March of this year that an FE engine turned over 1000 Horsepower, naturally aspirated (K untz & Company).

Your 428 with factory Iron heads and single quad was making no where near 800 horsepower in 1992. Factory low riser, Cobra Jet heads are only good to 550-600 fully ported on a good day no less.

It isn't too hard at all these days to build an 800 horse FE, it takes about 25-30,000 bucks, aftermarket fully ported heads (Blue Thunder High Risers or Stage 4 Edelbrocks), ported Edelbrock Victor or dual quad tunnel wedge, a huge roller cam, beefed up valvetrain and lots of cubic inches.

That's how I know. I have assembled over a dozen race FE engines and know it takes a lot more than a mish-mash of parts to do it. I am not saying I am an expert, but I know a fair amount.

Go ahead and post your engine stats over at www.FordFE.com and you'll go deaf from the laughing. The heavy hitters in the FE world hang over there, Barry Robotnik, Jay Brown, Dave Shoe, Royce Peterson, Blair Patrick and many, many others. Barry and Blair compete in Engine Masters, Barry also owns Survivalmotorsports.com.

Jay Brown competes in Hot Rod Drag Week. He won 2005 with his 492 inch supercharged FE (1098 horsepower) He won 2007 in his 2005 Ford GT. Later this year he will have a complete guide to the Ford FE engine, complete with hundreds of dyno tests and will finally put a nail in the coffin to Steve Christ's POS of a book.

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Old Sep 4, 2009 | 11:06 AM
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Was there any mention of this car being a naturally aspirated FE?

This car is right at 600 cubic inches (not an FE) and,,,,,,well has a little help moving air.



1700 Horsepower? Yup its possible, we see more and more of this and takes several lbs of boost. Large displeacement engines are capable of this with 32 to 35 lbs of boost.

Been seeing over 2000 HP lately. Expect more.....
 
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Old Sep 4, 2009 | 11:11 PM
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Hmmm.... a twin turbo 526 cid FE Cammer would make a sweet sound on a dyno run. And would be a lot of fun to play around with.
 
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Old Sep 4, 2009 | 11:35 PM
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Wait for Jay Brown's 2009 Hot Rod Drag Week Galaxie with a 585" Cammer.

Josh
 
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Old Sep 5, 2009 | 09:24 AM
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That Falcon is charged for sure. You can see and hear it when the boost hit's. It gets frenetic. Not a turbo I think, but definitely boosted.

edit: it is turboed according to the specs. I didn't hear the turbos the first time I listened. 1800 is VERY doable with a big BBF and turbos.
 
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Old Sep 5, 2009 | 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by peganit2
That Falcon is charged for sure. You can see and hear it when the boost hit's. It gets frenetic. Not a turbo I think, but definitely boosted.

edit: it is turboed according to the specs. I didn't hear the turbos the first time I listened. 1800 is VERY doable with a big BBF and turbos.

Giant turbo's:

 
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Old Sep 5, 2009 | 12:21 PM
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When was that dyno contest held? Did the Falcon win?
 
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Old Sep 5, 2009 | 01:14 PM
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Dang those are massive turbos. Not sure I have ever seen the headers sweep back and then under the suspension to the turbo. Clever for sure, but makes the car dedicated to the track or a smooth road to the local Sonic.

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Old Sep 5, 2009 | 01:29 PM
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Dang those are massive turbos. Not sure I have ever seen the headers sweep back and then under the suspension to the turbo. Clever for sure, but makes the car dedicated to the track or a smooth road to the local Sonic.

Josh

As long as the sonic does not have any speed bumps, lol.
I could imagine that this vehicle is rather difficult to load on any car hauler, with the exception of Feather lite type trailers with a complete hydraulic car lift.
Does look like things get tight under there.
 
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Old Sep 5, 2009 | 01:41 PM
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Reminds me of Rick Dobbertin's J-2000 from the early 80s. That car was darn near in every Hot Rod Magazine for years.

Josh
 
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Old Sep 5, 2009 | 05:05 PM
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Is that yours?
 
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Old Sep 5, 2009 | 05:19 PM
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This is a cool find. I have had a similar idea for a while now. I would love to build a Kaase Boss 521 with twin turbos. Figured 9-1 with 20-25lbs. Thinking 750HP range.
 
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