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Transfer case
Ok so it turns out the transmission isnt the real problem and what the problem is its that the transfer case is stuck in 4x4 low... it shifts but only thru 1st and 2nd...so today i went to the junkyard and i took off a transfer case from an f-150 and it looks like this...
BUT my problem is when i went to go put it on my 88 bronco it was not the same transfer case...it looks just like the one above without the extended piece to the rear driveshaft...if you dont know what im tlking about look below...
(IGNORE THE WRITING ITS SOMEONE ELSES PICTURE)
Do you see the rear driveshaft??? mine looks like that not a extended type like the one in the 1st picture...my t-case is hooked right to the driveshaft there is no pointy extension like the 1st pic...
now i was wondering if i could some how take that extension off and fit it on my bronco to make it work...
The transfer case on my truck is a BW 1356 and so is the one i bought today...idk why it wasnt the same t-case...
any suggestions???
BUT my problem is when i went to go put it on my 88 bronco it was not the same transfer case...it looks just like the one above without the extended piece to the rear driveshaft...if you dont know what im tlking about look below...
(IGNORE THE WRITING ITS SOMEONE ELSES PICTURE)
Do you see the rear driveshaft??? mine looks like that not a extended type like the one in the 1st picture...my t-case is hooked right to the driveshaft there is no pointy extension like the 1st pic...
now i was wondering if i could some how take that extension off and fit it on my bronco to make it work...
The transfer case on my truck is a BW 1356 and so is the one i bought today...idk why it wasnt the same t-case...
any suggestions???
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Are you replacing the transfer case or the shift motor?
I haven't used my 4x4 very often but it's hard to imagine not realizing it's in four wheel drive and that the problem is that the transmission is not shifting correctly.
Were your hubs turn in? Or were they off?
Is there a ID tag on the transfer case? There's a picture of mine in MyGarage under the DonKo.
The extension should unbolt from the transfer case and transfer to the one you want to install.
I haven't used my 4x4 very often but it's hard to imagine not realizing it's in four wheel drive and that the problem is that the transmission is not shifting correctly.
Were your hubs turn in? Or were they off?
Is there a ID tag on the transfer case? There's a picture of mine in MyGarage under the DonKo.
The extension should unbolt from the transfer case and transfer to the one you want to install.
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You should be able to swap tail-housings between the two cases. You will have to swap output shafts from the two cases as well. The output shaft from the one with the longer tail-housing will obviously be too long to re-use.
I know you are not concerned with the notations in the photo but "shift motor" note is correct while the "relay" note is not. The item shown is the connector from the shift motor to the main wiring harness. (Just in case anyone else may read this thread and wonder).
I know you are not concerned with the notations in the photo but "shift motor" note is correct while the "relay" note is not. The item shown is the connector from the shift motor to the main wiring harness. (Just in case anyone else may read this thread and wonder).
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You should be able to swap tail-housings between the two cases. You will have to swap output shafts from the two cases as well. The output shaft from the one with the longer tail-housing will obviously be too long to re-use.
I know you are not concerned with the notations in the photo but "shift motor" note is correct while the "relay" note is not. The item shown is the connector from the shift motor to the main wiring harness. (Just in case anyone else may read this thread and wonder).
I know you are not concerned with the notations in the photo but "shift motor" note is correct while the "relay" note is not. The item shown is the connector from the shift motor to the main wiring harness. (Just in case anyone else may read this thread and wonder).
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Are you replacing the transfer case or the shift motor?
I haven't used my 4x4 very often but it's hard to imagine not realizing it's in four wheel drive and that the problem is that the transmission is not shifting correctly.
Were your hubs turn in? Or were they off?
Is there a ID tag on the transfer case? There's a picture of mine in MyGarage under the DonKo.
The extension should unbolt from the transfer case and transfer to the one you want to install.
I haven't used my 4x4 very often but it's hard to imagine not realizing it's in four wheel drive and that the problem is that the transmission is not shifting correctly.
Were your hubs turn in? Or were they off?
Is there a ID tag on the transfer case? There's a picture of mine in MyGarage under the DonKo.
The extension should unbolt from the transfer case and transfer to the one you want to install.
Its a BW 1356 T-Case, so is the one i bought today at the junkyard but with the extension on it...
How do you switch out the housings and the output shafts??
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the motor works fine i tested it and it works, the transfer case is stuck in 4x4 low, but the t case i bought today has a motor on it already i just need to know how to take the output shafts and housings off so i can swap the t-cases
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Tail housing should unbolt leaving the output shaft to be slipped from the t-case. You might check with the folks in the transmission and transfer case forum for specifics about removing the output shaft.
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In order to change the output shaft and housing out to make the other case shorter is very simple. It requires taking both cases apart all the way to the internals. The output shaft runs all the way to the high/low range planetary set. Swap as needed to make one case.
Personally, you could just take apart the bronco t-case, requires some intrenal snap ring pliers, a large Torx wrench and a large socket to remove the nut holding the flange to the output shaft, and then just fix the shift forks. Unless the bronco T-case has alot of miles on the 4x4 portion, it is the shift forks and the retainer for the oil pump that typically goes bad. The shift forks are available from ford, and the retainer is repaired by adding a bar so that it engages the case more than the orginal tab of the oil pump.
Personally, you could just take apart the bronco t-case, requires some intrenal snap ring pliers, a large Torx wrench and a large socket to remove the nut holding the flange to the output shaft, and then just fix the shift forks. Unless the bronco T-case has alot of miles on the 4x4 portion, it is the shift forks and the retainer for the oil pump that typically goes bad. The shift forks are available from ford, and the retainer is repaired by adding a bar so that it engages the case more than the orginal tab of the oil pump.
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Ok
so today i took both transfer cases apart and in the broken transfer case (original case ) the oil pump retainer, oil pins, and the oil pump housing was all broken and snapped off and they were scattered apart in the case, big chunks of metal...so i had to take the shorter shaft i needed and installed the oil pump stuff from the longer output shaft ( the one i dont need ) and then i installed it in the t-case from pull a part...but before i did all that i took everything out and cleaned it all out and i basically rebuilt the t-case from pull a part myself...now all i gotta do is put tranny fluid in it and install it on the truck and its good to go =)
i saved myself 1000$$ and did it all myself in 4 hours!!!
i saved myself 1000$$ and did it all myself in 4 hours!!!
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yeah the truck is no longer stuck in 4x4 and now it shifts through all its gears! it still runs choppy though... i need to change the spark plugs and the converter is clogged up in the exhaust...any suggestions on how to fix the choppiness?? lol
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