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Old Jul 22, 2009 | 10:56 AM
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3 speed column shifter fix

Hey you all - -
I am looking for a fix for a shifter problem: Occasionally when shifting my 57 F-100, the column shifter is hanging up coming out of 1st gear & sometimes will not allow me to catch 2nd. I stop and start over in 1st gear and it will allow me to shift through 2nd & 3rd with no problem. This is just intermittant enough to mess with my mind & must be fixed. My question; where can I buy shift column lever bushing, spacer, whatevers? The 3-speed is a new rebuild, no problems there. . . except I wish it was an original overdrive unit, but that is another whole can of worms.

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Old Jul 22, 2009 | 11:08 AM
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This sounds more like youshift rod is simply out of adjustment.

You can buy those partsd (I think) from Carpenter, LMC, C&G. But I'd try adjusting the shift rods first - and just a dash.

OBTW just FYI if youdecide to bebuild your column, Ross (Albuq F1) wrote an excellent paper on the shift rebuild. I have an Acrobat copy, but can't find a link at the moment....You may want to ask him for a copy:
 
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Old Jul 22, 2009 | 11:14 AM
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Well Sir, thanks for the quick responce, I appreciate it.
I thought about adjustments & shift linage slop at the transmission outputs, checked, nope all nice and tight.
 
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Old Jul 22, 2009 | 12:21 PM
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Hi Sunstroke,

What you are describing is a pretty common problem on the '57-60 when stuff starts to wear.
If it is not an adjustment needed as Julie had sugguested, you can also try Johns F- Fun Hundreds. They should have what you are looking for.

Hope this link works.............
https://secure25.securewebsession.co...shop/index.htm

I believe this is the tech article Julie was refering to, great article!................
http://www.flatheadv8.org/columnshift.pdf

Meanwhile, if you have to drive it before you can get to fixing it......
Try positive shifting.
Keep slight upward pressure on the lever until you reach neutral. drop straight down through neutral, and keep slight downward pressure on the lever while shifting away into 2nd, and also while pulling back into 3rd.
Going from 3rd to second, keep slight downward pressure on the lever as you move away to neutral. Lift straight up on the lever while keeping slight upward pressure on the lever as you pull back into first.
BTW, Julie is actually a m'aam.
Hope this helps.
 
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Old Jul 22, 2009 | 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by sunstroke
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Well Sir, thanks for the quick responce, I appreciate it.
I thought about adjustments & shift linage slop at the transmission outputs, checked, nope all nice and tight.

Julies not a Sir - Julie responds to Mam
 
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Old Jul 22, 2009 | 05:41 PM
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Are you looking for a 3 speed with overdrive trans? I have one that is/was rebuilt that I have no use for, it's complete with the solenoids. Let me know if you're interested.
 
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Old Jul 22, 2009 | 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by sunstroke
I am looking for a fix for a shifter problem: Occasionally when shifting my 57 F-100, the column shifter is hanging up coming out of 1st gear & sometimes will not allow me to catch 2nd. I stop and start over in 1st gear and it will allow me to shift through 2nd & 3rd with no problem.
At the bottom of the steering column under the hood are the two manual control selector levers where the shift rods from the trans attach.

In each one of these levers is a bushing and insulator.

What happens: The bushings dry out and crack apart, when this occurs the shift lever binds up.

It's also possible the bushings have disintigrated and fallen out.

This is a very common problem on all 1957 and later Ford vehicles with a column shift aka 3 on the tree.

In the 1961/66 & 1967/72 forums, this question is asked at least twice a week.

B7AZ7343A .. Bushing & Insulator Kit / One kit does both levers / Obsolete

MILLER OBSOLETE PARTS in Binghamton NY has 18 = 800-546-7278.

GREEN SALES COMPANY in Cincinnati OH has FOUR = 800-546-7278.

MATLOCK FORD-MERCURY in Franklin IN has NINE.

GRIESEL MOTOR COMPANY in Okarche OK has THREE.

There are other sources, but no source is close to AZ.
 
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Old Jul 22, 2009 | 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by sunstroke
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Well Sir, thanks for the quick responce, I appreciate it.
I thought about adjustments & shift linage slop at the transmission outputs, checked, nope all nice and tight.
Hi,

Actually I wasn't thinking about sloppiness as much as I was thinking they are out of position- pulling the shift levers too far in one direction and not enough in the other.

Always enjoy being thought of as one of the guys!.... But......

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Julies not a Sir - Julie responds to Mam
......As I get older, it's always nice that folks can still see the difference. Thanks Penn Dick.
 
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Old Jul 22, 2009 | 07:16 PM
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one actually disintegrated on me and fell off in the middle of a drive. That caused the rod to just jump out. Scary as hell when you can't shift out of 1st
 
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Old Jul 23, 2009 | 12:57 AM
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There is no adjustment on the two shift rods.

These two rods attach to the trans levers on one end, to the manual control selector levers on the steering column on the other.

When the rubber bushings in those two manual control selector levers crack apart, the shift lever binds up between gears.

I dunno about 1948/56's ... but I do know about 1957/79's, as this has been a very common problem for decades.

The kit that fits 1965/79's is the same. I've prolly typed its part number (C5TZ7343A) 500 times here on FTE.
 
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Old Jul 23, 2009 | 09:02 AM
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Yes, I would consider returning my 57 F-100 back to the original 3-speed overdrive transmission. How do I contact you for details on your overdrive unit?
 
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Old Jul 23, 2009 | 09:49 AM
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Hi Sun!

You don't have the required 25 posts to send site "Private Messages," so just left click on his user name in the upper left corner of his post and there will be a drop down menu that includes "send flatheadjohn an e-mail." Click it and write!
 
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Old Jul 23, 2009 | 10:43 AM
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Yeah, do just as Julie says and send me an e-mail and we'll see if we can work something out.
 
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Old Jul 23, 2009 | 10:53 AM
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OK, thanks to all.
 
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