WTF is going on???
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WTF is going on???
So recently I had cleaned the two "socks" that were in the fuel tank pickup because they had become very dirty and had restricted almost all fuel flow and had some stalling/sputtering symptoms. After I had cleaned them the truck ran great for awhile and something must have messed up the fuel gauge sender because it always read full. Well not having a very accurate measure of how much fuel was in the tank I ended up running out of fuel or so I think. There was about a good 5 gallons left in the tank. How much is left in the tank when it runs out of fuel? I put about another 5 gallons back in the tank and filled the fuel bowl but still it won't start...so right now I'm pretty lost if anyone can help me.
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You've probably lost the prime of your fuel pump is all, but it can be a pain to get back. Keep your batteries charged and try cycling your key 3 or 4 times in succession for 30 seconds each time. On the final cycle, crank for 10 seconds. Then let it 'rest' for about 2 minutes. What happens is this: when you turn the key to ON the fuel initially runs for 30 seconds, then shuts off if the engine isn't running. By cycling several times, you'll be trying to pull fuel from the tank.... but if you do that too much, you'll burn up the pump because the fuel also serves to lube/cool the fuel pump.
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If you lost your prime, it will take more than five gallons to prime it. Put atleast 10 gallons in and cycle the pump several times. You will hear the pump when it primes if you listen.
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It's just another idea that I'm trying to throw out there. I ran my truck out once and put 5 gallons in. It started and spit and sputtered for a while but it eventually drove the air out of the lines and ran fine after that. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but if the truck starts "stalling, sputtering", isn't that symptoms of a CPS going bad? Have you had the CPS recall? This sounds completely off the wall I know but I would have thought that you would have been able to drive the air out by now.
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The easiest way I know to check for fuel is to cycle the key for 25 seconds a few times, then open the fuel bowl drain valve and turn the key on (not start). If you get a good steady stream under pressure out the drain tube, the pump has it's prime and you can try to start. If you just get some drips out the tube or a slow drain, save your batteries. Add some more fuel and repeat until it works.
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I'm reading this thread cause i'm doing the HPOP...started today, got it out of truck and cleaned up, tomorrow i'll be changing the o-rings and painting the reservior...i was gonna paint the HPOP too, but you can't even see it under the fuel pump deal on my SD, so why bother...but, anyway, there was no mention of needing to remove the dang fuel gig or the reservior to get to the HPOP in any of the threads I read on here before i started, so, now i'm concerned with putting it all back together, and it not starting caused by the fuel bowl being emptied during removal, and i don't know where i'm supozed to fill the reservior, through the sensor on top??? HELP ME SOMEBODY...hahaha...anybody that's done this and gonna be in Huntsville??
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You should be fine to just cycle the key on for about 25 seconds, don't start up, for 4 or 5 times. Fuel pump will purge the air if it hasn't lost it's prime. You can fill the res., but it's not a must.
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There's a little plug with a torx fitting to the right of the sensor. That's where you fill the reservoir back up. Just remember, you only need it filled to within 1" of the top. There's a stand pipe inside that will drain any excess oil down into the oil pan. You can dump 20 qts in the HPOP reservoir without overfilling it, but you'll have WAY to much oil in the engine.
For the fuel side, as long as you've got a decent amount of fuel in the tank, you'll be fine. As Barry said, just cycle the key. It's no different than draining the bowl to change the fuel filter.
For the fuel side, as long as you've got a decent amount of fuel in the tank, you'll be fine. As Barry said, just cycle the key. It's no different than draining the bowl to change the fuel filter.
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I have no idea what the H&^% i'm doing...hehehe...just turning wrenches and getting really oily....hahahaha....kindof why i need help...get it?
Thanks for your help, as far as filling the oil reservior, i see that torx fitting thing, and i asked Ron how he did his DIY fuel bowl delete...no response yet...any ideas???
Thanks for your help, as far as filling the oil reservior, i see that torx fitting thing, and i asked Ron how he did his DIY fuel bowl delete...no response yet...any ideas???