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Old May 17, 2009 | 08:40 AM
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h or x pipe question

i know in a perfect world the x or H pipe should be equidistant from each header but this is an 89 f-150 4x4 so that can't happen right now i have dynomax blackjack headers with 2.25in (true duel) exhaust going to the mufflers and 2.5in out of the mufflers exiting infront of the rear tire, i was wondering how much an x or h pipe would benifit me but the only spot where i can put it the drivers side pipe is about 2 feet further away from the header than the passengers side would this hurt performance?

i know there is a sound differance and i also know that in a perfect world you take a wax crayon and draw a line from your headers back and put the x pipe where the wax did not melt off but that's not going to happen with this exhaust setup

so how much h/p would this be worth

here are my engine mods
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HEI pro billet dissy
Mallory coil
FRPP <A href="https://www.ford-trucks.com/rx98192zju/kwldirect.php?kwid=625" target=_top rel=nofollow>plug wires
Ported E7 heads
Edelbrock RPM Air gap intake manifold
Holley 570 vac. secondary carb
Cam:300 intake/ 310 exhaust adv. duration, duration @ .050 of 224 intake and 234exhaust, Valve lift of .496 intake and .520 exhaust, Lobe C/L is 112
Acell 14in Aircleaner with offset base
Dynomax Headers
2.25in duel exhaust to the mufflers (summit welded) then 2.5in out of the mufflers exiting infront of rear <A href="https://www.ford-trucks.com/rx98192zju/kwldirect.php?kwid=715" target=_top rel=nofollow>tire

125 shot of nitrous

and i have a 3500 converter and 4.56 gears if that makes a differance

basically is this going to make enough h/p that it's worth my trouble to weld one in?

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Old May 17, 2009 | 10:46 AM
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An H/X pipe helps cylinder scavenging at low rpms but really doesn't do anything at higher rpms, so I don't see it making a noticable difference on your setup.
 
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Old May 17, 2009 | 11:17 AM
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When you run the pipes down the one side its allmost impossable to get the H pipe where you need it . The only thing the h pipe would do is change the sound of your truck . And i dont think it will even do that because you have the pipes coming out the same side . Lew
 
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Old May 17, 2009 | 11:47 AM
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alright thanks that's just what i was looking for lol do you 2 have something set up that tells you when i make a post cause i think you've responded to every one of my posts
 
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Old May 17, 2009 | 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by 1966Tbird
alright thanks that's just what i was looking for lol do you 2 have something set up that tells you when i make a post cause i think you've responded to every one of my posts
..Yes i know evertime you make a post LOL . I think its just because were all gear heads so we post alot on the same threads . Lew
 
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Old May 18, 2009 | 01:13 AM
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It it were my truck, I would go with the x-pipe. They help at more than just low RPM. At higher RPM, the benefits are less noticeable, but they still help smooth out the torque curve and balance the sound.
 
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Hre's how you find out where the h or x pipe goes.....

about 1/2 between the header collector & the muffler, paint a strip on the pipe about 12-18" lomg (any type paint, must be bright- white, etc. Drive the vehicle getting engine up to operating temp. Check the paint stripe, where the paint is burned off or discollered most, thats where the H or X pipe goes!
 
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Old May 18, 2009 | 02:30 PM
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Yes that is right . But how do you put an H pipe in with the tank in the way . I use an H pipe on my truck but i dont have the side tank ..Has enyone done this with the tank in . Lew
 
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Yes that is right . But how do you put an H pipe in with the tank in the way . I use an H pipe on my truck but i dont have the side tank ..Has enyone done this with the tank in . Lew
Can you show me a pic, I can't see what you are saying?
 
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Old May 19, 2009 | 10:54 AM
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I don't have a pic of a truck with the tank in , but if you look under our year trucks the side tank (drivers side) is in the way so you have to run both pipes down the other side . So that would make the drivers side pipe longer . So you could put in a h pipe but it wouldn't be in the same place on each pipe . On my truck with out the tank i just run duals striaght back from the headers the have my H pipe right after the tranny pan & thats pretty close to where it needs to be > lew
 
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here is an old picture of my old exhaust you can see where the tank is and it's totally in the way as well as the transfer case
 
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I don't have a pic of a truck with the tank in , but if you look under our year trucks the side tank (drivers side) is in the way so you have to run both pipes down the other side . So that would make the drivers side pipe longer . So you could put in a h pipe but it wouldn't be in the same place on each pipe . On my truck with out the tank i just run duals striaght back from the headers the have my H pipe right after the tranny pan & thats pretty close to where it needs to be > lew
The H or X pipe goes forward of the axle, typically at the back of or after the trans
 
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Mine is right after the trans pan before the drive shaft. Lew
 
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Size:  148.2 KB This is the h pipe with out tank ..Lew
 
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your welds look like mine haha
 
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