Notices
1980 - 1986 Bullnose F100, F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks Discuss the Early Eighties Bullnose Ford Truck

transmission question....

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old May 14, 2009 | 11:44 AM
  #16  
Redneck1465's Avatar
Redneck1465
Posting Guru
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 1,781
Likes: 1
Originally Posted by Ken Blythen
OD would have to be a big help in an aerodynamic car, but with these trucks you're pushing so much air at higher speed, the advantage is lost, in my experience.
I agree but alot of people report about a 3-4 mpg increase when they go from a C6 to a ZF 5spd. I havent done the swap yet but I plan on it this summer.
 
Reply
Old May 14, 2009 | 01:57 PM
  #17  
hittman1422's Avatar
hittman1422
Elder User
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 712
Likes: 0
From: Blue Eye, mo. hwy 86 & JJ
but what about those of us who just want to go fast
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Reply
Old May 14, 2009 | 03:01 PM
  #18  
Ken Blythen's Avatar
Ken Blythen
Cargo Master
15 Year Member
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 2,558
Likes: 69
From: New Zealand
Ahh! Different priority!

JUST GO FOR IT!!
 
Reply
Old May 14, 2009 | 03:07 PM
  #19  
Ken Blythen's Avatar
Ken Blythen
Cargo Master
15 Year Member
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 2,558
Likes: 69
From: New Zealand
Originally Posted by Redneck1465
I agree but alot of people report about a 3-4 mpg increase when they go from a C6 to a ZF 5spd. I havent done the swap yet but I plan on it this summer.


Some of the gain must be from the high power consumption of the c6 - I've read up to 60hp
 
Reply
Old May 14, 2009 | 09:11 PM
  #20  
Redneck1465's Avatar
Redneck1465
Posting Guru
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 1,781
Likes: 1
Yeah I would assume thats where most of it comes from plus the 5th gear has to help a little.
 
Reply
Old May 15, 2009 | 12:53 AM
  #21  
Kuskoal's Avatar
Kuskoal
Elder User
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 548
Likes: 0
From: Sparks, NV
so if you want to go auto, there are 3 options pretty much;

-the c6 which you have, a real tank and can take abuse, add a gear vendors PRETtY pricey. Also i dont think their worth it, the c6 torque converter will slip indefinitely all the time.
-the E4OD automatic, can be built to a godly diesel torque capacity and beyond with a lockup converter. direct over drive at cruising speeds, needs a breakout box (baumann) and some tweaking of electronics
-the AOD has a really nice overdrive, .66:1 i think with a lockup converter. great cruiser but get that TV cable adjusted! this leads to the bad rep and is frowned upon for longevity. can be built to take power though


the manuals;

-NP435 is a TANK of a transmission, boasting a tracor 6:1 low and 8:1 reverse with 1:1 direct.
-the RUG is an extremely light duty overdrive (.78 i think) transmission made for daily drivers with no need for huge power. aluminum case, very weak.
-the M5OD is a car transmission put behind EFI motors for the same purpose as the RUG but a narrower gear spread. same .78 over and WEAK
-the T-18/T-19 are related to the NP 435 being a work transmission, granny first and a cast iron case with 1:1 direct. very sloppy when worn in though
-the coveted ZF5 transmission is a godly combination of granny first (5?:1 ratio) and a .76 overdrive! have your cake and eat it, too! very hard to find, integral bell housing means MAKE SURE IT IS A SMALLBLOCK ZF5! came behind 300's and 351W's in f250 and 350's.

for a manual swap your gonna need a flywheel, 11" clutch, hydraulic throwout rams or mechanical ones, throwout bearing, pilot bearing, clutch peddles, linkages or hydraulic cylinder.

Am i missing anything?

the gear vendors will live happily behind any transmission if you were thinking it. think about a ZF5 with the .76 over and the .78 over of a gear vendors. .59:1! you can run a 5.38 gear to pull ANYTHING and get the same highway cruise as a 3.25:1 geared truck. in the neighborhood of 2000 rpm at 65 mph.

ENOUGH OF ME BABBLING to sum it up, throw a stick in, the c6 is a real power drain being it sucks at least what, 20 hp? your gonna need all the hp of that inline 6 you can grab.
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
dcagnolatti
1957 - 1960 F100 & Larger F-Series Trucks
3
Nov 2, 2013 12:08 AM
grayghost1956
1987 - 1996 F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks
14
Jan 27, 2011 09:09 AM
WillyB
Ford Inline Six, 200, 250, 4.9L / 300
27
Jul 10, 2006 11:33 AM
basstruck
335 Series- 5.8/351M, 6.6/400, 351 Cleveland
9
Dec 21, 2002 04:57 AM
unioncreek
Clutch, Transmission, Differential, Axle & Transfer Case
4
Aug 28, 2001 07:58 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:54 AM.

story-0
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-1
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE
story-2
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-3
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-4
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-5
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-6
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE
story-7
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

Slideshow: first look at the 810 hp 2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road!

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-12 12:50:07


VIEW MORE
story-8
2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

Slideshow: Everything You Need to Know about the 2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-07 17:51:06


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

Slideshow: 10 most surprising Ford truck options/features in 2026.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:17:22


VIEW MORE