overloads
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I was thinking of doing the same thing since I had to remove those for my airbag install. That covers one end of the spring, but I'd like to find something for the front side so I get contact there too. Let me know if you come up with any ideas for this.
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I'll let you know F350, i do have front and rear covered. one touches the stock pad already with camper on, and the fourth i put a steel tube between the stock pad and the mount. I cut with my torch, a slot that would allow me to pop it in with a hammer (like the stock mount).
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I'll let you know F350, i do have front and rear covered. one touches the stock pad already with camper on, and the fourth i put a steel tube between the stock pad and the mount. I cut with my torch, a slot that would allow me to pop it in with a hammer (like the stock mount).
How hard was it to get the factory rubber out of the support? Did you pry it down from the top, or punch it out using a hammer?
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I don't see that one spinning,it fits flush with the back. i also don't see them breaking, i'm thinking of the force of the full truck they designed it for, and the springs are giving. it'd have to bottom out to get huge forces, and that's against the regular springs and the timbrens. The camper & bed would have to be so far tipped if the went all the way down (don't see it with the timbrens) If they do fail, i'll make mention of it. thanks for the "second set of eyes" dudes!
i used two large screwdrivers and then just pry down, came out stiff but not bad.
i used two large screwdrivers and then just pry down, came out stiff but not bad.
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When used as a bump stop the force is straight up against the rubber, the spring is contacting it at an angle so you are stressing the rubber-metal bond instead of just compressing the rubber.
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sure cleared off today in western oregon Chris, how are things down there? staying away from the pig flu?
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Great- now you have totally defeated the engineering that went into you truck.
1) you put a level kit in it - so it looks like a Vega with a horse in the trunk each time you actually use your truck like a truck.
2) you loaded it, but not up to capacity
3) you decided that the overloads should be touching eventhough you are not overloaded
4) you engaged the overload springs earlier than they were designed to engage.
Brilliant.
1) you put a level kit in it - so it looks like a Vega with a horse in the trunk each time you actually use your truck like a truck.
2) you loaded it, but not up to capacity
3) you decided that the overloads should be touching eventhough you are not overloaded
4) you engaged the overload springs earlier than they were designed to engage.
Brilliant.
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From: Texas
Great- now you have totally defeated the engineering that went into you truck.
1) you put a level kit in it - so it looks like a Vega with a horse in the trunk each time you actually use your truck like a truck.
2) you loaded it, but not up to capacity
3) you decided that the overloads should be touching eventhough you are not overloaded
4) you engaged the overload springs earlier than they were designed to engage.
Brilliant.
1) you put a level kit in it - so it looks like a Vega with a horse in the trunk each time you actually use your truck like a truck.
2) you loaded it, but not up to capacity
3) you decided that the overloads should be touching eventhough you are not overloaded
4) you engaged the overload springs earlier than they were designed to engage.
Brilliant.
Next, the purpose of overloads is to provide additional support when loaded without sacrificing ride quality when empty. Worst case all he's done is stiffen up the ride some. You could just as easily swap the springs for a stiffer set, but that would cause a rougher ride when empty.
Third. Contact with the overloads also provides additional sway control, so this mod actually will improve handling. I didn't realize the amount of sway control the overloads provided until I installed my air bags and no longer had my truck sag far enough to touch the overloads.
Do your experiences differ from this, or are you just assuming Ford designed it right to begin with and no one should mess with it?
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Ford didn't design it right to begin with, at least not in all years. I've seen different years the overloads at different heights. My truck has been severely overloaded and the springs did nothing to assist. They are too far away from the bump stops. In the camper and RV world this is a constant hot topic with many mods and aftermarket products to address the issue. Even with air bags, many still modify the overload perches to contact sooner because it assists with sway control too. I'm not very pleased with the spring design on my truck either in the back. It squats way too easily.
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IHbase brought out some good points, but I must say I took it as sarcasm. Why not post them in a respectable manner so surveyguy and everyone else can discuss them?
As F350-6 said, it is a hot topic. Let's discuss it and come up with ideas that can help everyone.
Someone earlier mentioned the supersway stops by superspring. Has anyone tried those or know of anyone? I asked superspring about them and they are only for sway control and do not help with payload. They also only come in one height of 2-3/4".
As F350-6 said, it is a hot topic. Let's discuss it and come up with ideas that can help everyone.
Someone earlier mentioned the supersway stops by superspring. Has anyone tried those or know of anyone? I asked superspring about them and they are only for sway control and do not help with payload. They also only come in one height of 2-3/4".
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Thank you for this. I've been trying to get dimensions on them to get an idea of how to do my own (similar to what's pictured above), but have not had any luck finding the dimensions.
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yeah, i just decided not to respond to the seemingly-vicious comments, i do really appreciate everyone's views, heck, i feel i have some pretty good ideas and views myself, that's why we're here, right? To learn from each other? I mean heck, if they don't like what i bring here, then they don't have to "rep" me. 
Thanks to everyone!
Thanks to everyone!
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You're welcome!