The last two weeks have been nothing but a nightmare for me and my truck which finally left me stranded this morning luckily less then a 1/2 mile from my house. I'll start from the begining and hopefully one of the experts here may have an idea what's going on. I have 99.5 f350 dually with not quite 110000 miles on it. About three months ago i began the process of modifing the truck to get a little more power and reliablility out of it. I started with the usual exhaust and intake then proceeded to install the trans go tugger kit minus the front pump mods, a apparently cheap peace of crap torque convertrer from Oregon Performance, and the DP Tunner F6 chip with all the towing tunes plus the 100 and 120 performance tunes.

Now that i think back the truck hasn't been running quite right for a while now but it wasn't something really noticable. This past weekend when I towed heavy for the first time is when crap hit the fan. First diagnosis is that my brand new TC took a crap. The truck just would not put the power to the ground. Trans temps were fine and the engine was running and sounded fine, but it took all it had to get up the hills and about left us sit. We were able to limp it home and then the next day when i was trying to get a feel of what was wrong the turbo decided to take a crap on me probably due to all the stress on it from the night before. well seamed like good time to upgrade so I had the local performance shop install a new stock unit with the Banks Waste Gate Actuator and the wicked wheel installed. Picked it up last night and motor seemed to run fine but it still wasn't getting power to the ground. I couldn't even break the tire loose on the 120 setting on my tuner. So i decided to put the old stock converter in this morning but on my way to the parts store to get ATF it just shut off on me and left me sit. It will turn over but that was it. I got it towed back to my place. I tried replacing the cam position senser then it attempted to start but then immeadiatly shut down. It even Hydralocked on me once. Now its back to just turning over. I checked the fuel filter and it seamed fine. It has less then 10000 miles on it. the injectors where replaced about 10000 miles ago. One thing i noticed was that the filter housing was pressurized when took the cap off squirting fuel every where. Which leads me to believe that either the ECU took a crap on me or the high pressure fuel pump took a crap on me. I did try taking the dp tuner chip off and that didn't make a difference either. Any Ideas?

 

I'm not sure I would start by tearing into the torque converter just yet, especially if its not slipping or your tranny temps normal. I think the problem is somewhere else.

Have you tried putting it on the scanner to see if any codes are present? You could also be experiencing HPOP related issues, which is why I would want a scanner on it. you can check pressures with a scanner to see if the HPOP is working correctly.

Also, was there any unusual black or white smoke?

 

Is your WTS light coming on? What were you getting for boost readings while you were towing?

 

The filter housing will be pressurized unless you drain if first. Like Jim ask, any boost reading? Low boost will cause you running problems, but shouldn't affect it's starting. Any smoking? What color? When did you last change or check your oil? You wouldn't be the first that a new tuner caused a damaged IPR to fail completely. You can also try uplugging your ICP and see if that will allow it to start. And Welcome to the site.

 

Welcome to FTE. Did you put in a set of guages, or are you relying on the factory gauges to tell you what's going on? Did you put in a larger or auxiliary tranny cooler? I've discovered that OPT is the last place you should deal with for tranny stuff. Does your tranny fluid look or smell burtn?

Now for your no start issue, most of the questions have been asked above. HPOP and ECU are fine, so no worries there. You do need to verify the oil level is full though. When it stalled, was it a sputtering, taper down stall, or more like someone just turned the key off?

 

I just changed the oil last week before the tow that killed everything and tranny fluid look as red as the day i put it in. I have tranny temp, egt temp and boost gauges installed. Tranny cooler is stock. It didn't go over 180 the enitre trip. Since i replaced the turbo boost levels are where they need to be. When i brought it home on friday from getting the turbo replaced it was giving me a little white smoke when i was on the throttle instead of the normal black when I would have the tuner turned up which concerned me. I didn't get a chance to get a scanner on it yet. Hopefully the begining of this week. When it stalled it tapered down and stalled out. no spitting or sputtering. You guys are going to have to help me with the acronyms. I couldn't even find them on the acronym page. WTS, IPR, IPC??? By the way thanks for all the help. I've been lurking around here for quite a few years but just never had the need to post. I've learned alot from the site, and hope to continue too.

 

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/5...questions.html

That's all the acronyms used on the site.

WTS= Wait to Start Light
IPR= Injector Pressure Regulator (i think lol, been here a year and still second guess)
ICP= Injector Control Pressure? yet again maybe wrong

 

Could be the IDM? but I think they rarely fail.

Maybe try taking the DP off and try it that way.

btw: is this the torque converter you have?
eBay Motors: FORD E4OD 4R100 POWERSTROKE HD BILLET TORQUE CONVERTER (item 7999943948 end time Apr-24-09 12:13:50 PDT)

 

I have the next step up from the one in that ebay add. Claimed to be a twin disk....

4L60E, 700R4, 4L80E, 4R100, E4OD, 2004R, C6, TH350, TH400 Transmission: FORD E4OD 4R100 SUPER HEAVY DUTY BILLET TORQUE CONVERTER, POWER STROKE, TWIN DISK

 

Here's a pretty good link with most of the acronyms and expanations use around here. If the IPR or ICP fails it should set the CEL or check engine light. You could hava failing fuel pump or clogged fuel supply. One will result in poor oil supply and the other poor fuel supply, both will shut the engine down. Here's a picture I made a while back that will help you locate some to the major items.

 

I am a little confused on the hydro locked statement. Could the TC have been locked making you think Hydro locking.

 

Loss of fuel pressure because the fuel pump is drawing air. Either you are very low on fuel or one of the quick connects between the fuel tank and the fuel pump inlet has failed.
All that air is compressable and that is what caused the fuel to spray everywhere when you pulled the cover.
I've pulled the cover on my truck without draining the bowl first and nothing sprayed out, but the fuel was up to the very brim of the bowl.
What happened in your case is all the air suddenly expanded back to atmospheric volume and sprayed the fuel.
Before proceeding to anything else, I recommend that you make sure that the fuel supply is correct.
Before I "fixed" my truck and it was still stock design, I could get an alternating fuel and diesel foam coming out of the cylinder head fuel rail if I cracked the NPT fitting loose and watched it run.
I would like to know more about this as well.

 

Well i got it started. I left it set overnight with the batteries disconected. Unpluged the ICP and it started right up. Pluged the ICP back in and no change. Shut it down and started it with the ICP plugged in, no problems. took it up and down the driveway acouple times. stalled once. started back up without a problem. The truck doesn't have any power and was getting worse the more I drove it. The last trip up the driveway it wouldn't even make it up a small hill. I'm kinda of thinking I need a new lift pump. It sounds like its running but it might not be putting the volume out that its suposed to be. What do you guys think? I won't be able to get a new pump until tomarrow. Hopefully that works.

When it hydrolocked was I actually had gotten the truck started for a second and got on the throttle to keep it running and the motor died while I was all but full throttle. I went to turn it over again and it wouldn't even turn over. I let it sit for an hour or so then it would turn over again.

 

I would think at this point and if it was me. I would want to check HPOP and Fuel pump pressure. I made up a gauge and a hose separately for both. But i got the AE , it reads the HPOP.. It would save you the money on a fuel pump if it isn't it.

Mixing chamber screens clogged? Just a thought.

 

A very distinct possibility.