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Personal experience with the Bronco- repairs for the first 7 years- I aready had 100K+miles so, the early issues were alignment, rotors,breaks;
last 18 months A/C compressor, antilock brake HCU unit,etc,. brake booster, and and ignition issue. But these are 175K+ mile repairs on a 13+yr old truck,,
So, the 7yr/100K may not have been good for me. But lets say you're in year 4 of the rig w/45K and wham! one repair at the dealer of say alternator/thermostat- maybe parts plus 100hr/labor and theie into you for 800-1000$;
last 18 months A/C compressor, antilock brake HCU unit,etc,. brake booster, and and ignition issue. But these are 175K+ mile repairs on a 13+yr old truck,,
So, the 7yr/100K may not have been good for me. But lets say you're in year 4 of the rig w/45K and wham! one repair at the dealer of say alternator/thermostat- maybe parts plus 100hr/labor and theie into you for 800-1000$;
Standard power train warranty is 5 year / 60000 miles or 100,000 KM's (Canada)
I know the power train portion covers all seals, gaskets and all lubricated components or parts that are affected by the failure of a covered part.
I'm not certain about electronics such as the PCM or other electrical components that the DRIVE TRAIN relies on to function properly.
Before you pull the trigger, you should go to the dealer of your choosing and have a good old fashioned sit down and hammer out these details.
The fact that the ESP overlaps the factory warranty really pi$$es me off.
Tim
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the warranty overlap frosts my biscuit as well! But as far as having a sitdown with the salesnake9person) is that he/she can say whatever- then later say " I never said that or you're mistaken as to what I said. A list of everything part and repairwise that is not coevered is what I would like
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the warranty overlap frosts my biscuit as well! But as far as having a sitdown with the salesnake9person) is that he/she can say whatever- then later say " I never said that or you're mistaken as to what I said. A list of everything part and repairwise that is not coevered is what I would like
Tim
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The Ford ESP is an awesome Warranty
You guys knocking it must never have had a Warranty Repair before. You litterally drop your truck off, it gets fixed, then you pick it up.
The Ford ESP covers damn near everything that can and will go wrong. Even the Car Rental...which btw, the Bumper to Bumper Warranty does not
If you look around, you'll find that most people spend at least $500 for just 1 single visit to a Dealership for a Non-Warranty Repair. IMO, if you were to make 2 of those visits, then that Warranty has paid for itself and then some. Plus, it's nice knowing that all of the electronics are covered for 5yrs...vice the 3yr/36k Bumper Warranty
other than that...it's all Snake Oil sales. VIN Etching, Undercoats, Scotch Guard, Sand/Surf Protection, Island Protection...just a load of crap designed to make tons of money for the Dealership.
You guys knocking it must never have had a Warranty Repair before. You litterally drop your truck off, it gets fixed, then you pick it up.
The Ford ESP covers damn near everything that can and will go wrong. Even the Car Rental...which btw, the Bumper to Bumper Warranty does not
If you look around, you'll find that most people spend at least $500 for just 1 single visit to a Dealership for a Non-Warranty Repair. IMO, if you were to make 2 of those visits, then that Warranty has paid for itself and then some. Plus, it's nice knowing that all of the electronics are covered for 5yrs...vice the 3yr/36k Bumper Warranty
other than that...it's all Snake Oil sales. VIN Etching, Undercoats, Scotch Guard, Sand/Surf Protection, Island Protection...just a load of crap designed to make tons of money for the Dealership.
Warranties are in the same boat...but if you buy the Ford PremiumCare ESP...it truly is a good one
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I wernt impresssed at all with the ESP plan. Covered a lot but so many restrictions hidden in the small print. Like they say it's never worth taking out any extended warrnety be it TV, Houses, Mowers or your truck. Saying that though i know some people who get extended warrentys on everything they buy. I was offered extended warrenty on a pack of sanding blocks the other day in lowes lol.
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The Ford ESP is an awesome Warranty
You guys knocking it must never have had a Warranty Repair before. You litterally drop your truck off, it gets fixed, then you pick it up.
The Ford ESP covers damn near everything that can and will go wrong. Even the Car Rental...which btw, the Bumper to Bumper Warranty does not
If you look around, you'll find that most people spend at least $500 for just 1 single visit to a Dealership for a Non-Warranty Repair. IMO, if you were to make 2 of those visits, then that Warranty has paid for itself and then some. Plus, it's nice knowing that all of the electronics are covered for 5yrs...vice the 3yr/36k Bumper Warranty
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You guys knocking it must never have had a Warranty Repair before. You litterally drop your truck off, it gets fixed, then you pick it up.
The Ford ESP covers damn near everything that can and will go wrong. Even the Car Rental...which btw, the Bumper to Bumper Warranty does not
If you look around, you'll find that most people spend at least $500 for just 1 single visit to a Dealership for a Non-Warranty Repair. IMO, if you were to make 2 of those visits, then that Warranty has paid for itself and then some. Plus, it's nice knowing that all of the electronics are covered for 5yrs...vice the 3yr/36k Bumper Warranty
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Like hell they are. None of the computer stuff is covered by the EW.
Consumer Reports has been advising people not to get extended warranties for years.
Link:
Extended car warranties - don't be a pushover: Consumer Reports Cars Blog
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"The fact that the ESP overlaps the factory warranty really pi$$es me off."
It's deception from the getgo. They call it a 7 year warranty but it doesn't start until the 3 or 5 year warranty ends, so it's really a 2 to 4 year warranty, or less if you drive a lot of miles. Then they don't even show you the actual legal agreement, just some glossy brochure about how you can have peace of mind since your PCV valve and distributor cap will be covered. Then they lock you in a little room with a vampire specially trained to separate you from your money, and this vampire doesn't even get paid unless he hustles his victims to the max since he's working strictly on commission.
All that being said, it's true that Ford will easily hit you for $500 on up any time you wander in after the warranty is up.
It's deception from the getgo. They call it a 7 year warranty but it doesn't start until the 3 or 5 year warranty ends, so it's really a 2 to 4 year warranty, or less if you drive a lot of miles. Then they don't even show you the actual legal agreement, just some glossy brochure about how you can have peace of mind since your PCV valve and distributor cap will be covered. Then they lock you in a little room with a vampire specially trained to separate you from your money, and this vampire doesn't even get paid unless he hustles his victims to the max since he's working strictly on commission.
All that being said, it's true that Ford will easily hit you for $500 on up any time you wander in after the warranty is up.
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The Ford ESP is an awesome Warranty
You guys knocking it must never have had a Warranty Repair before. You litterally drop your truck off, it gets fixed, then you pick it up.
The Ford ESP covers damn near everything that can and will go wrong. Even the Car Rental...which btw, the Bumper to Bumper Warranty does not
If you look around, you'll find that most people spend at least $500 for just 1 single visit to a Dealership for a Non-Warranty Repair. IMO, if you were to make 2 of those visits, then that Warranty has paid for itself and then some. Plus, it's nice knowing that all of the electronics are covered for 5yrs...vice the 3yr/36k Bumper Warranty
other than that...it's all Snake Oil sales. VIN Etching, Undercoats, Scotch Guard, Sand/Surf Protection, Island Protection...just a load of crap designed to make tons of money for the Dealership.
You guys knocking it must never have had a Warranty Repair before. You litterally drop your truck off, it gets fixed, then you pick it up.
The Ford ESP covers damn near everything that can and will go wrong. Even the Car Rental...which btw, the Bumper to Bumper Warranty does not
If you look around, you'll find that most people spend at least $500 for just 1 single visit to a Dealership for a Non-Warranty Repair. IMO, if you were to make 2 of those visits, then that Warranty has paid for itself and then some. Plus, it's nice knowing that all of the electronics are covered for 5yrs...vice the 3yr/36k Bumper Warranty
other than that...it's all Snake Oil sales. VIN Etching, Undercoats, Scotch Guard, Sand/Surf Protection, Island Protection...just a load of crap designed to make tons of money for the Dealership.
Warranties are in the same boat...but if you buy the Ford PremiumCare ESP...it truly is a good one
I wernt impresssed at all with the ESP plan. Covered a lot but so many restrictions hidden in the small print. Like they say it's never worth taking out any extended warrnety be it TV, Houses, Mowers or your truck. Saying that though i know some people who get extended warrentys on everything they buy. I was offered extended warrenty on a pack of sanding blocks the other day in lowes lol.
Like hell they are. None of the computer stuff is covered by the EW.
Consumer Reports has been advising people not to get extended warranties for years.
Link:
Extended car warranties - don't be a pushover: Consumer Reports Cars Blog
Consumer Reports has been advising people not to get extended warranties for years.
Link:
Extended car warranties - don't be a pushover: Consumer Reports Cars Blog
"The fact that the ESP overlaps the factory warranty really pi$$es me off."
It's deception from the getgo. They call it a 7 year warranty but it doesn't start until the 3 or 5 year warranty ends, so it's really a 2 to 4 year warranty, or less if you drive a lot of miles. Then they don't even show you the actual legal agreement, just some glossy brochure about how you can have peace of mind since your PCV valve and distributor cap will be covered. Then they lock you in a little room with a vampire specially trained to separate you from your money, and this vampire doesn't even get paid unless he hustles his victims to the max since he's working strictly on commission.
All that being said, it's true that Ford will easily hit you for $500 on up any time you wander in after the warranty is up.
It's deception from the getgo. They call it a 7 year warranty but it doesn't start until the 3 or 5 year warranty ends, so it's really a 2 to 4 year warranty, or less if you drive a lot of miles. Then they don't even show you the actual legal agreement, just some glossy brochure about how you can have peace of mind since your PCV valve and distributor cap will be covered. Then they lock you in a little room with a vampire specially trained to separate you from your money, and this vampire doesn't even get paid unless he hustles his victims to the max since he's working strictly on commission.
All that being said, it's true that Ford will easily hit you for $500 on up any time you wander in after the warranty is up.
Tim
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Thanks for the info. I was never a fan of ESPs or rust protection. My last 2 trucks were not covered or rust proofed.
After some searching I think I will get the linex spray liner. Not sure about the brand of mud guards or tonneau yet.
Still might get the Krown rust proofing done.
Any other suggestions?
Muskoka_Smurf
After some searching I think I will get the linex spray liner. Not sure about the brand of mud guards or tonneau yet.
Still might get the Krown rust proofing done.
Any other suggestions?
Muskoka_Smurf
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I just googled the Ford ESP program and there are four tiers of coverage.
I'm not going to go into details as most people (me included) are a little turned off by extended service plans, BUT, the premium care plan covers over 500 components. The web site didn't allude to pricing, I would imagine it's negotiable as well as the duration of the coverage.
There are some points to consider.
1. Vehicles are built better than they ever have been in terms of reliablity.
2. They are also more complex than ever requiring sophisticated diagnostic equipment in many cases to pin point an issue.
3. The ESP will extend your roadside assistance
4. The ESP will also provide a loaner car or rental reimbursment if you are in for service.
It seems that the longest coverage is 7 years or 100,000 miles. That extends the power train by 40k miles. If your very hard on your vehicle, it may be a wise investment. If you trade every 4-5 years, definately not worth it.
Tim
I'm not going to go into details as most people (me included) are a little turned off by extended service plans, BUT, the premium care plan covers over 500 components. The web site didn't allude to pricing, I would imagine it's negotiable as well as the duration of the coverage.
There are some points to consider.
1. Vehicles are built better than they ever have been in terms of reliablity.
2. They are also more complex than ever requiring sophisticated diagnostic equipment in many cases to pin point an issue.
3. The ESP will extend your roadside assistance
4. The ESP will also provide a loaner car or rental reimbursment if you are in for service.
It seems that the longest coverage is 7 years or 100,000 miles. That extends the power train by 40k miles. If your very hard on your vehicle, it may be a wise investment. If you trade every 4-5 years, definately not worth it.
Tim
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Dealer just called and truck is in. I have arranged for linex of bed (black), rear wheel wells (black) and rockers (razor red to match truck). I am probably going with a Bakflip HD and Weather Tech Digi mats. Anyone have experience with Weather Tech side window deflectors or mud flaps?
Have I missed anything else?
Have I missed anything else?
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Dealer just called and truck is in. I have arranged for linex of bed (black), rear wheel wells (black) and rockers (razor red to match truck). I am probably going with a Bakflip HD and Weather Tech Digi mats. Anyone have experience with Weather Tech side window deflectors or mud flaps?
Have I missed anything else?
Have I missed anything else?
I did have one deflector replaced because it kept popping out....espeically if I rolled the window down at highway speeds. They were fine to deal with...very happy with the customer service. I removed all the deflectors and I put some double stick tape on the tabs and reinsterted them. They've not popped out since.
I have a new vehicle now that I'm considering putting them on. Haven't ordered yet.
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