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Old Apr 4, 2009 | 08:45 AM
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The dealer I got my truck from had to go about 350 miles to pick up. I asked if there would be a charge and he said "No". And that's the way it should be, if they want to sell a truck now instead of a factory order (up to 6 weeks). Chris
I dropped the hint about ordering the truck. When I go in I will mention sell the truck now or wait six weeks for the sale.
 
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Old Apr 4, 2009 | 08:46 AM
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My truck was over 500 miles away and they sent 2 drivers to go there and pick the truck up. $0 cost to me. They said that some places do charge but it's not commen. I told them i didnt want to to be charged to pick the thing up.
 
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Old Apr 4, 2009 | 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by shorebird
Do you have the VIN for the truck? If you do use the Ford Direct Search; https://www55.forddirect.fordvehicle...eSearchService To find out where it is and decide if it is worth it to you. You can even call the dealer that has it and see what he wants for it.
Don't have the vin number, I might go to the ford site and see if you can do a search with options and locate a truck that way.
 
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Old Apr 4, 2009 | 09:37 AM
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I'll warn you about another way they stick you on these - dealer added options. They don't show up on the window sticker that your dealer is looking at, so if they show it to you (and you should insist that they do) you won't see things like bed liners, alarms, undercoating, lifts, and lots of other stuff. If that happens you'll have to be prepared to make decisions on whether you want to pay for it. They won't want to take it off. It's just another way they like to pull surprises on you hoping you'll be so in love with the new truck that you will agree.

I think the dealers even pull tricks on each other that way to get a little profit on a vehicle leaving their stock.
 
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Old Apr 4, 2009 | 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by bpounds
I'll warn you about another way they stick you on these - dealer added options. They don't show up on the window sticker that your dealer is looking at, so if they show it to you (and you should insist that they do) you won't see things like bed liners, alarms, undercoating, lifts, and lots of other stuff. If that happens you'll have to be prepared to make decisions on whether you want to pay for it. They won't want to take it off. It's just another way they like to pull surprises on you hoping you'll be so in love with the new truck that you will agree.

I think the dealers even pull tricks on each other that way to get a little profit on a vehicle leaving their stock.
Good point. Dealer add ons can be a very sticky item to negotiate. My local dealer also owns a race team and he likes to build new trucks and new stangs then add 10k-15k to the price. They usually sit for a long time.

Tim
 
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Old Apr 5, 2009 | 08:21 AM
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I had the same sort of thing with the spray in bed liner. Dealer wanted $500 to get it done and i called line x and they qouted $450. The guy who owns the line x said he gives discount to the dealers because of how many they send here so the dealer was making really good money from the bed coatings. You def got to watch some dealers.
 
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Old Apr 5, 2009 | 08:39 AM
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Why does everyone fault dealers for trying to stay in biz?

Originally Posted by Bsimmer3000
I had the same sort of thing with the spray in bed liner. Dealer wanted $500 to get it done and i called line x and they qouted $450. The guy who owns the line x said he gives discount to the dealers because of how many they send here so the dealer was making really good money from the bed coatings. You def got to watch some dealers.
If it costs a dealer money (paying employees and gas) to transport a truck, why is it a problem if they charge the customer for that? Likewise, on the bed liner thing, they are trying to make a few dollars. Car dealers are going under left and right...and it seems like everyone wants them to make zero money when they buy a car or a truck...they have rent, utilities, salaries, etc to pay.

Do you go into a restaurant or bar and complain when they charge you 4 bucks for a bottle of beer that you can buy for a buck? What a concept that businesses actually have to charge you enough money that they earn a profit...

I'm all for trying to find the best deal myself, but I also want my Ford dealer to stay in business.

George
 
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Old Apr 5, 2009 | 09:17 AM
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I've been in the car business for 25+ years...it's a difficult way to make a living. Not just for the salespeople...but...for the dealer. Profit is not a swear word...remember that when the dealer that you beat up unmercifully on the price of the vehicle...and then do your own maintenance or repairs...is not there when you need a "favor"...or...warranty work done.

In the overall scheme of things...what difference does a $200-$300 price difference make when you factor in that you will keep the truck for 5+/- years and drive it 60+/- miles??? Don't forget...by shopping locally...you are supporting your neighbors...the folks who pay taxes in your town...whose kids go to school with your kids. In the past couple years more than 500 Ford dealers have gone out of business...maybe if the local buyers had supported these businesses...at least some of them would still be in business.

In my part of the world...the closest Ford dealers to us are 20+/- miles away to the north and south...40+/- miles away to the east and west. I wonder how those local folks who bring in their vehicles with the competitors sticker on the back will feel if we went out of business...and...they had to drive those extra miles for the warranty work???

Charging extra to cover expenses incurred is a common business practice...some dealers are open about it...by including it as a line item on the sales agreement...others include it in the selling price.
 
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Old Apr 5, 2009 | 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by YoGeorge
If it costs a dealer money (paying employees and gas) to transport a truck, why is it a problem if they charge the customer for that? Likewise, on the bed liner thing, they are trying to make a few dollars. Car dealers are going under left and right...and it seems like everyone wants them to make zero money when they buy a car or a truck...they have rent, utilities, salaries, etc to pay.

Do you go into a restaurant or bar and complain when they charge you 4 bucks for a bottle of beer that you can buy for a buck? What a concept that businesses actually have to charge you enough money that they earn a profit...

I'm all for trying to find the best deal myself, but I also want my Ford dealer to stay in business.

George
Well said ^^^^^^^. And like I said earlier, if you think you didn't pay for the pickup of your vehicle, you probably did. The dealer either already had it figured into the bottom line or they had enough profit margin figured in to cover it. If a dealer really is giving you a bottom dollar price, they will HAVE to ask you to cover that cost, or else they would lose money or break even on the deal. I don't know many dealers that would waste time selling a vehicle that's not even in their inventory if they are going to lose money on it.
 
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Old Apr 5, 2009 | 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by BIGKEN
Don't forget...by shopping locally...you are supporting your neighbors...the folks who pay taxes in your town...whose kids go to school with your kids.
Excellent point as well. In my home town, the local car dealers have always been some of the most dependable sponsors for community and charity events, as well as school events.
 
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Old Apr 5, 2009 | 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by YoGeorge
If it costs a dealer money (paying employees and gas) to transport a truck, why is it a problem if they charge the customer for that? Likewise, on the bed liner thing, they are trying to make a few dollars. Car dealers are going under left and right...and it seems like everyone wants them to make zero money when they buy a car or a truck...they have rent, utilities, salaries, etc to pay.

Do you go into a restaurant or bar and complain when they charge you 4 bucks for a bottle of beer that you can buy for a buck? What a concept that businesses actually have to charge you enough money that they earn a profit...

I'm all for trying to find the best deal myself, but I also want my Ford dealer to stay in business.

George
One of the most true posts i've seen all day....
 
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Old Apr 5, 2009 | 12:06 PM
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I totally agree with all the posts regarding profits and local business dealings. Most business make thier money on volume sales. A small town Ford dealer for instance such as in the area where I grew up in Maine may serve a 40 mile diameter area that has a population of possible 50,000 people. His prices are bound to be higher than the Ford dealer in the nearest city 40 miles away with a population of 70,000. People are going to drive 50 miles to save a thousand dollars. That puts the small local dealer in a tough spot.

Everything has gone up exponentially in the past five years. People feel gouged. It seems that a premium or (surcharge) has been attached to everything to cover business expenses, wheather it's wrtten or not, it's there.

CEO's of failing companies have 7 figure compensation packages. I don't wish to feed that but ultimately have little choice.

So, I'm sorry gentlemen, I'm not going to give a local dealer 35k for the same truck that I can get for 30K elsewhere. In fact, I'll drive 100 miles to save 1K.

Loyalty is earned.

Tim
 
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