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HI all, new @ this thread thing but hoping can get some answers. I actually heard there is a gentleman that hangs out here by the name of Bill Cohron. If someone knows him or maybe has some answers please respond. I have an 04 F350 6.0. I purchased used, dealer knew there was a superchip programmer originally installed. They failed to have customer remove the programming. I have had an edge juice platinum installed. I physically set to default then removed edge from vehicle for emissions testing. The emissions tech was reluctant to test because of high hp ratings @ driving speed. Called ford diesel tech that does all maintenance & repairs. He instructed to go ahead & test. Test ensued and blew high pressure hose clamp in half when ramped up and load down during test. Readings wer 299.8 hp @ 57.6 mph w/ 2808 lbs of load put on dyno, opacity reading of 9%. Tech states normal readings during this point of test is; 240 hp @ 60 mph w/ same load & an opacity reading of 1-2%. I am not getting help from dealer even though truck still barely under warranty. I have been told the PCM needs to be set to stock w/ original super chip programmer & they only way around this is to replace PCM & reprogram with stock program. If true what is my best avenue to pursue this dilema. Please help have $30,000 paper weight in driveway because cannot get registration.
I would think that the dealership could remove that program, they may be jerking your chain, course I could be wrong.
Careful with that Edge. One of the first things I put in my truck, and in less than a year I just rebuilt the tranny at $3600. Keep your EGT Defueling at a nominal rating, and I wouldn't run it in 3-5 for very long. I've learned an expensive lesson.
There are some really smart guru's in here, I'll see if I can get one for ya that may know a little more about that superchip.
I have been told the PCM needs to be set to stock w/ original super chip programmer & they only way around this is to replace PCM & reprogram with stock program. If true what is my best avenue to pursue this dilema. Please help have $30,000 paper weight in driveway because cannot get registration.
One of those options is correct and that is to get the superchip programmer that has your truck's stock programming on it and upload that stock program back to your truck. The other answer is crap unless your pcm is fried. All they would have to do is load up the current program back on to your truck's computer. No need to order a new pcm and program and install that new one.
Given that this is due to a non-ford product, I'm sure just about any dealership you go to would charge you the $100 dollar computer hookup fee for this.
I know you didn't ask for this in your original post, but I feel compelled to mention it. Get rid of the Edge, it's not properly programming your ECM and TCM and you could be one of the 95% of the edge runners that have had bad things happen to their tranny. Get something that does custom tuning or be very very very careful with your Edge and the 6.0.
Tex is telling ya straight. There is absolutely NO REASONING to replacing a PCM or FICM unless it has failed. All the dealership has to do is plug in and reflash it to factory specs. It will overwrite any previous programming by any aftermarket programmer. If your dealership tells you any different then they don't know beans about a 6.0 to start with and you need to find a different one. You didn't list a location, but I'm sure we can find you a friendly dealer decently close to you that can help.
Thanks all to those who replied. I have had the truck PCM flashed once, edge has been in since then. Set to default on edge then physically pulled from truck. It is already on market for resale, hate to push off on somebody else. They might have already done the tranny work so it would be more helpful to them. I am in Colorado Springs, Colorado and the only Ford dealer here in town is Phil Long Ford. It is real sad I have spent over 75,000 @ these dealerships in 4 yrs. Yet it seems they want to keep jerking my chain and milking me for money. If anyone knows of reputable person within 100 miles or so let me know. THANKS AGAIN FOR YOUR HELP!
The PCM can be reflashed something like 100K times (maybe more) before it "wears out". I believe that the edge platinum is a flash programmer also??? If so then return to stock on the edge to unlock it and restore the as bought program, return to the dealership, and have them reflash it with IDS? (Ford Factory). It's that simple. It's basically the same procedure as flashing a new blank PCM.
I believe that the edge platinum is a flash programmer also???
The Edge that he mentioned is an in-line fuel module. It intercepts and modifies signals, not really tunes the computer. It's the same thing as the juice but with supposedly more safety features.
Originally Posted by npccpartsman
If so then return to stock on the edge to unlock it and restore the as bought program, return to the dealership, and have them reflash it with IDS? (Ford Factory). It's that simple. It's basically the same procedure as flashing a new blank PCM.
Well there is one added procedure. Still very simple, but the ECM program is uploaded seperately from the TCM program, but all in all same simple process, just a tad longer(have to make them earn that $100 some how don't we?).
I was unsure about the edge, therefore the question marks--LOL. Still......the dealer should be able to easily return the PCM to stock programming without replacing it in about 15 or so minutes.
Hi all & ty, for responses. Called Ford and they are telling me they can't do anything till I put stock exhaust back on. Which they know I don't have. I bought the truck this way. I am sweet talking a salesman @ ford to see what he can do for me. Really need someone somewhat local that is willing to help!
If they're telling you they won't work on the truck let alone flash the computer until you put the stock exhaust back on you certainly need a new dealership.
Hi all & ty, for responses. Called Ford and they are telling me they can't do anything till I put stock exhaust back on. Which they know I don't have. I bought the truck this way. I am sweet talking a salesman @ ford to see what he can do for me. Really need someone somewhat local that is willing to help!
HORSEHOCKEY!! Mines been in the shop with ALL the mods to have work done and they didn't bat an eye at it. Mech. just recommended that I change up the CCV and that was it. Tell the salesman to blow it out his ____________ (fill in the blank)!
Hi all & ty, for responses. Called Ford and they are telling me they can't do anything till I put stock exhaust back on.
That is crap. I have a 5" straight pipe exhaust and my dealership has done work on my truck knowing that I have that exhaust on there with no issues mentioned to me(or otherwise). Sounds to me like you have a bad dealership, which I don't know why they are giving you this much trouble. With today's times, getting any repair type gig is better then nothing and that's what dealerships need to stay afloat is their repeat repair customers, they can't survive on sales alone in any time(let alone this time in particular).
Ethan -- first and FYI here's a copy of the on-board diags for your 2004 vehicle. I'm not a fan of ANY tunes and have seen many cause more harm than good. With that said I'd recommend you rebaseline your truck with the Ford OEM software (current calibration files) using IDS or FJDS. Quite a few on-base / skills auto hobby shops have these tools -- I know Parris Island had them, perhaps someone on this forum is close by you and can help. (I'm not near any marine bases the next couple of weeks).....................
Some aftermarket tools claim they can do the above -- more often than not they'll brick your PCM, other modules on the network.