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Old Mar 2, 2009 | 07:45 AM
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A little history, I purchased the truck (2005 F-350, CC, Long bed) in July of 2008 to pull my camper. I have always wanted a truck this size. My wife has pretty much complained about it since we purchased it. She drives it the most transporting my little boys back and forth from the babysitter. She hates getting the boys in and out; my youngest is 7 months and over 20 pounds. She complains about the size, having to let it warm up, etc. I had my first problem at the end of January. The EGR cooler went out and the truck is out of warranty. She took this opportunity as a way to convince me of getting rid of it. She simple wore me down (amazing how your wife can do this) and I gave in. So I fixed the truck as cheap as I could. I completely deleted the EGR system. I basically had $175 dollars in it including the $90 tow bill. She hasn’t been able to find a new vehicle to meet her wants and needs so I believe she is leaning towards the decision of just keeping the truck.

Now my questions for you guys are this; the truck runs rough upon start up on cold mornings. I mean by rough is it jumps around for at least a minute before it smoothes out. When you get it out on the road, it bucks a little. I have 123,000 miles on the truck and I also run full synthetic oil. I pulled the codes and got P0275 (Cylinder 5 contribution/balance) along with a couple EGR codes. Could cylinder 5 injector cause this or could the FICM be going bad. What are some tests I can do to trouble shoot it before I take it to someone. I am trying to save as much money as possible.
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Is it a good idea to run the truck with the turbo in limp mode for now? I understand I will have to purchase a tuner with a custom tune to pull the EGR operation out of the computer; is this true?
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Old Mar 2, 2009 | 08:35 AM
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do you have the latest inductive heat flash? http://turbodieselforums.com/diesel_2.pdf

if you do get it it should smooth out engine operation during cold starts.

do you run 5w-40 syn oil year round not just in winter?

doing the egr delete will cause a few sensors to not read any proper egr flow especially in the late 04's and to the end of 07 models with the 6.0l, ford changed some programming around in the pcm/ecm which always looks for any low or non-existent egr flow and causes the engine to defuel slightly and cause the vgt vanes to lock in a fixed position thanks to your friendly epa idiots.

i recommend you contact eric at innovative diesel, get a sct xcal 2 or 3 tuner to turn the egr off internally this should fix the egr delete issues you are having.

#P0275 Cylinder 5 Contribution/Balance Fault i believe this is a bad injector code so you will need a new injector here.

do you do the proper routine maintenance to the truck, oil/filter every 3k (only refill 13.5qts of oil necessary), fuel filters every 7-15k miles depending upon fuel quality, also drain fuel hfcm at least once a mon.

did you ever send out a oil sample to Blackstone for a analysis?

i would also recommend doing the ccv reroute and a diesel site coolant filter setup also.
 
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Old Mar 2, 2009 | 08:37 AM
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it is still a good idea if you go to the dealer and have them scan the pcm for the codes the tech should tell you exactly what the engine needs fixing and what software updates if any are needed for your specific engine. hope this helps you out.
 
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Old Mar 2, 2009 | 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by 6LPSD
do you have the latest inductive heat flash? http://turbodieselforums.com/diesel_2.pdf

if you do get it it should smooth out engine operation during cold starts.

do you run 5w-40 syn oil year round not just in winter?

doing the egr delete will cause a few sensors to not read any proper egr flow especially in the late 04's and to the end of 07 models with the 6.0l, ford changed some programming around in the pcm/ecm which always looks for any low or non-existent egr flow and causes the engine to defuel slightly and cause the vgt vanes to lock in a fixed position thanks to your friendly epa idiots.

i recommend you contact eric at innovative diesel, get a sct xcal 2 or 3 tuner to turn the egr off internally this should fix the egr delete issues you are having.

#P0275 Cylinder 5 Contribution/Balance Fault i believe this is a bad injector code so you will need a new injector here.

do you do the proper routine maintenance to the truck, oil/filter every 3k (only refill 13.5qts of oil necessary), fuel filters every 7-15k miles depending upon fuel quality, also drain fuel hfcm at least once a mon.

did you ever send out a oil sample to Blackstone for a analysis?

i would also recommend doing the ccv reroute and a diesel site coolant filter setup also.

i believe my truck has the latest flash. i do the routine maintenance and run syn oil year round, or at least since i bought the truck. changed the fuel filters about 9000 miles ago. i have not drained the hfcm. will check that as soon as i can. i have the coolant filter set up from the diesel site. i have not done the ccv reroute yet.

found a few places online that sell oem rebuilt injectors. good or bad idea?
 
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Old Mar 2, 2009 | 09:56 AM
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https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/8...the-proof.html Let her look at the pictures of this accident and read the guys' testimony as to how this TUFF SD saved his and the 3 passengers' lives. Try surviving that in some compact. Tell her how you feel much safer with her driving the SD as opposed to something more "economical" especially with your children in it. Let us know how it goes, good luck!
 
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Old Mar 2, 2009 | 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by scameron

found a few places online that sell oem rebuilt injectors. good or bad idea?
I think you would be just fine with it.
The latest heat flash would be my advice too, but because you just mentioned you have it (?), I'd blame the cold start issues on the injector and/or the EGR codes.
Oh, are you using fuel additive? If not,- use it!
 
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Old Mar 2, 2009 | 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by dcaddi2
I think you would be just fine with it.
The latest heat flash would be my advice too, but because you just mentioned you have it (?), I'd blame the cold start issues on the injector and/or the EGR codes.
Oh, are you using fuel additive? If not,- use it!
would the EGR codes cause a cold start issue? it actually got worse after i did the delete. i just blamed it on the fact it take the truck longer to warm up now.
 
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Old Mar 3, 2009 | 08:35 AM
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scameron -
Just within the last couple of weeks I had the latest flash put in my truck and it helped alot with the rough idle during cold weather starts.
 

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Old Mar 3, 2009 | 08:39 AM
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Just within the last couple of weeks I had the latest put in my truck and it helped alot rough the rough idle during cold weather starts.
when was the lastest flash released? does it cost? will try to get the truck in this week to maybe have them run some test.
 
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Old Mar 3, 2009 | 09:32 AM
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Not sure, it was all under warranty.
 
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Old Mar 3, 2009 | 03:46 PM
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I think it cost me right around $100, give or take a few. More than likely, take. I don't think it was more than $110, IIRC.
 
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Old Mar 3, 2009 | 08:07 PM
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Try Hot Shot's Secret!!

Originally Posted by scameron
A little history, I purchased the truck (2005 F-350, CC, Long bed) in July of 2008 to pull my camper. I have always wanted a truck this size. My wife has pretty much complained about it since we purchased it. She drives it the most transporting my little boys back and forth from the babysitter. She hates getting the boys in and out; my youngest is 7 months and over 20 pounds. She complains about the size, having to let it warm up, etc. I had my first problem at the end of January. The EGR cooler went out and the truck is out of warranty. She took this opportunity as a way to convince me of getting rid of it. She simple wore me down (amazing how your wife can do this) and I gave in. So I fixed the truck as cheap as I could. I completely deleted the EGR system. I basically had $175 dollars in it including the $90 tow bill. She hasn’t been able to find a new vehicle to meet her wants and needs so I believe she is leaning towards the decision of just keeping the truck.

Now my questions for you guys are this; the truck runs rough upon start up on cold mornings. I mean by rough is it jumps around for at least a minute before it smoothes out. When you get it out on the road, it bucks a little. I have 123,000 miles on the truck and I also run full synthetic oil. I pulled the codes and got P0275 (Cylinder 5 contribution/balance) along with a couple EGR codes. Could cylinder 5 injector cause this or could the FICM be going bad. What are some tests I can do to trouble shoot it before I take it to someone. I am trying to save as much money as possible.
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Is it a good idea to run the truck with the turbo in limp mode for now? I understand I will have to purchase a tuner with a custom tune to pull the EGR operation out of the computer; is this true?
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The more money I can save the closer I will be in keeping my truck.
Hi,

If you suspect a failing or failed injector(s) you could try running some Hot Shot's Secret through it before doing replacement.

Our customers report better performance, no turbo lag, easier starting and more power after just one treatment!

Hot Shot's Secret was designed to address the issue of stiction with the injectors in the 6.0. It was tested by International and found to correct this problem 86% of the time and improved performance for the remaining 14%.

It is completely guaranteed so there is no risk.

See Lubrication Specialties | Diesel Motor Oil | Primrose Engine Oil | Fuel Additives | Oil Additives | Engine Restore| for more info.

ALSO if you are using the truck to haul we recommend the NT Oil Additive. It is a tremendous friction fighter that can be added directly to your trans fluid, improving shifting and extending the life of transmission.

Good Luck in getting this resolved soon. If you have any questions feel free to email or call us.

Best,
Dan
 
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Old Mar 3, 2009 | 08:15 PM
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Old Mar 3, 2009 | 10:02 PM
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^^^^^^^ lol
 
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Old Mar 4, 2009 | 10:45 AM
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Hot Shot's Secret: an ounce of prevention (cont'd)

Originally Posted by stroke-of-luck00
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Hi,

Given the history of this engine: we know that the friction caused by injectors operating at 26K PSI can cause searing of the engine's oil thus causing oxidation to form on the injectors...and thus leading to their eventual malfunction and failure.

We at Lubrication Specialties wonder...how many of the other quirks with the 6.0 don't tie back to this known fact about this engine? Turbo lag is just one symptom, EGR getting crudded up, HPOP failure, injector o-ring failure etc...

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We have customers who have in excess of 500K on their original set of injectors and who do not seem to be breaking down like this. Coincidence?

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To those people out here with issues, especially given these difficult economic times, we encourage you to give Hot Shot's Secret a look. We would love everyone to join the 500K mile club with your truck...and as inexpensively as possible!

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Best Regards,
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