As requested the labels on my truck. Chris

 

Wow...that's a huge difference compared to others.

 

...the undisputed winner of the "macho F150" award.

I'll note that this is with E-rated tires, 55/60 lbs of pressure; those are definitely some real truck tires--not the little 20" rubber bands from "Pimp my Ride"....

 

I looked it up and I have 9.75 gear set/.373 with the 17" steel rims. Chris

 

So in theory, this truck should weigh 8200 - 2598 = 5602 lbs? That seems kind of heavy for a single cab 4x4. It must be the 4x2 models with the 8200 gvwr package that get the 3000 lb payload? This has turned out to be a very interesting and informative thread.

 

I'd like to get a crew cab truck for going ATVing. I would have 3-4 people, a 5x12 trailer with 2 quads on it and one in the bed. We do that now with my current truck for short trips.

In the future I'd like to get a 16x8 trailer so I could take a total of 5 ATVs. With gear, fuel, ect I think I would be way over those numbers and I don't think this should be a Superduty type load.

Mike

 

I'm going to say that Ford must have a mathmatical formula to figure GVWR. 2598 lbs though impressive is a rediculous number. Why not 2600 lbs? Is (2) two pounds going to break the camel's back? Will the rear leaf springs bend? Will the tires pop? No, of course not. This has to be legal speak from Ford's attourneys.

Chris's beast has a payload rating of 1100 lbs more than my '88. That is a helluva truck sir!

Tim

 

Yeah, 2600 lbs is very impressive. But so is the 5600lbs curb weight.

Damn, these trucks are HEAVY!

 

Stopped by a local dealer today to check out a truck I saw this weekend while browsing around.

Its a 145" wb Lariat supercrew 4x4. Max trailer tow, 3.73 gears, 18 inch wheels, etc. It had running boards, lariat plus package, and the 36 gallon fuel tank.

I was hoping to see a payload up near the theoretical max as published on the ford web site (1560lbs).

Turns out this truck is rated for 1294 lbs. Not bad, but still 266 lbs below max. The extra fuel tank capacity takes about 62 lbs, leaving another 200 or so for the other bling I guess.

If a similarly equipped 4x2 adds back 200lbs, as the ford site says, the payload would be about 1500. That would probably work for my situation although I would like to see it a bit higher.


Tim

 

It seems You pay a pretty hefty premium (in lbs) for the SCrew

 

Remember all versions of the 09 dropped weight for 09 due to changes in frame... with exxception of SCrew. Its also 6 in longer. Lets have the 8,200 GVW SCrew!!!

 

Just want to throw these out. I have some old Ford brochures from whem I bought new trucks before. Here are some numbers from the brochures.
I used F150 supercab, 8 ft bed 4x4 to try and get weights somewhat close. Remember old 80's truck had metal dash, metal inner fenders under hood which may or may not make a difference.
1988 payload 1750, gvwr 6250 (wheelbase 155)

1993 payload 1720, gvwr 6250, gcwr 11,500, max trailer weight 6700
if 4.10 axle add 1000 lbs to above gcwr & gvwr.

1998 payload 1280, gvwr 6250, gcwr 12700, max trailer wgt 7700.
I pulled 29 ft travel trailer with f150 with 302 motor, 3.55 axle ratio from Maine to Florida with 6 of us and all personal stuff... Never felt like it was overloaded. But my 1977, 88,93 and 97 had a helper spring on top of rear spring pack. Maybe that could help out the payload and tongue weight issues. I now tend to believe the comments on Ford trying to keep safe and out of court like Explorer issue with tires. The 93 and 97 catalog does start to change numbers different axle ratios, stick or auto, and wheel size 16 or 17 inch. Just to add some thought toolder truck numbers.

 

Well that's a good indicator as to how much trucks have changed over the years.

I was on the Ford build site earlier this evening and built an XLT Screw. 6.5' bed, 4x4 with the 5.4L and 3.73 axles and max trailer tow package. The came with the 36 gallon fuel tank and I added bed access steps as well as tubular running boards. The max payload of this set-up is 1580 lbs.

This package is identical to Bsimmer3000's Plat except it's not a plat. His I believe has the 3.55.1 axles. Why the huge difference?

Tim

 

This is what i cant understand Tim. But when you see the payload figures for the platinum, Speak to ford dealers, speak to people high up at ford they all told me the same thing as online. 1500lbs as spec'd. I would like to know why the difference in fords numbers.

 

I think someone at Ford screwed up. Additionally, I want to know why the 8200 lbs package isn't available on the screw. In my mind, it's the most likely version of a Ford that needs it. Hense, SUPER CREW. The truck was initially designed and marketed to carry a crew of workers to the job site, (work truck). Ford and all the others quickly adapted these trucks and thier marketing strategies toward light duty family use. BUT WHAT ABOUT THE CONTRACTORS!? Did Ford forget about the guys that need / want a fancy work truck?

I have come to believe that I'm missing a point or THE point. Maybe I'm just thick or stubborn, I've been associated with both.

I've tried to do a comparison with the Toyota and GM pound for pound, but Ford has so many damned options and packages that it's difficult to do an exact comparo.


Tim