Rings or Valves?
When my daughters care broke it became her daily use van. I noticed it had a rough idle and I thought it was a vacuum leak but didn't bother with it.
When I got it back, I noticed that the rough idle was worse and started looking into it. It was not a loose vacuum hose as I expected.
Eventually I tried to do a compression test. I pulled the plugs on the right side but could only get the gauge in the front two plug holes. I read 160 and 160 if I remember correctly (it was several months ago).
On the left side I could only pull the front two plugs without breaking something. I read 60 and 90.
This is was still a spare at the time so I let it set as it was still drivable if I needed it and we continued to drive the 96.
Well my 96 (that was totaled in the Mother's Day tornado last year) was still being driven blew it's head gasket. Between the body damage (pictures in a separate thread) and the bad head gasket, I decided to cash in my insurance.
So now I need to figure out my 94 problem. I am guessing valves or valve seals. I just want to get other opinions before I buy gaskets and open the engine (again). What do you think?
at that mileage, everything is worn out. rings pistons, crank and rod bearings, valve stems, camshaft probably lobe flat, worn out rocker arms, cam chain and gears.
too much money, work and blood investment to piecemeal it in chassis.
Its rather odd the right bank tests okay while both left bank are very low. Bad valve seats will produce a noticeable "puffing" sound in the exhaust. If the rings are badly worn, you should see evidence of oil fouling on those plugs. Your findings do not sound typical of the 4.0 engine. I would continue to investigate. Most problems turn out to be something rather simple in nature.
what work has been done on engine in last year?
age and condition of plugs and ig. wires?
what is the history of oil changes? per Ford recommendation or numerous missed OCs?
after the minor bugs are chased down:
pull the alternator, unbolt the a/c compressor and set it off to the side at the end of it's hoses to make room
pull all plugs. disconnect control cable to coil pack
charge battery overnight on charger.
run compression test on all cyls. dry.
" " " after a couple squirts of motor oil in each cyl.
run cyl leakdown test on each cyl.
record and post results.
may be able to get another 100k on motor if not a major oil burner.
if it's the heads or valves leaking and you go into the engine, replace the timing chain/gears. they have to be sloppy loose after 200k
i'd pull and do the work out of chassis. to easy for DIYer to have foul ups in the tight cramped Aero engine compartment.
It is also possible to do a leakdown test & get more conclusive results that way.
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Since then I have changed the oil 8 times. The average mileage between changes is 3,770.
It has the old OBD-I system and the check engine light is not on but I haven't check for any codes lately. I can do that as I still have an old scanner.
At 199000 I rebuilt the front end with 4 ball joints, shocks, tie rod ends and control arm bushings but that is beside the point.
It starts easily and doesn't use oil. I have not noticed any coolant loss either. It has pretty good pick-up when you really press down on it. My son who was driving the 96 prior to the head gasket going said that this has more pickup than the 96. If you don't mind the vibration, it is usable. Is just shakes when it idles and there is a huffing noise in the exhaust.
I first checked for loose vacuum hoses. I replaced the TPS. I swapped in a new MAF and put the old one back as there was no difference. That is when I decided to try the compression test.
Doing the head gaskets pushed my limits on engine work. I don't think I'm up to actually pulling one. Don't have a lift or engine stand or garage.
I was hoping for something simple like pull the head on one side and rebuild it. I've got lots of spare parts now, however the engine parts are from a OBD-II (with bad head gasket). I can't sell it with engine problems and 214K on it. I guess I can get the compression gauge and try again.
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take the heads to an engine shop, have them magnafluxed for cracks and check/ground for flatness and new sealing surface.
Cologne series 4L heads are notorious for for cracking.
have valve seats checked for cracks and regression and when ok, have 3 angle grind done for best seal long valve life.
if the block decks are not reground for level and proper finish, i like to lightly grind the block deck with 80 grit corborundum paper to slightly roughen the surface for better head gasket grip. use rags to plug the cyl holes from grit.
Ford used much too smooth a surface on head and deck surfaces especially in the very narrow inter piston area.
these engines would be prime candidates for deck steel ring insert grooving for far better head gasket sealing but far too expensive in an old road warrior rig.
Dick






