Yet another VIN thread
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Thanks again for all your help, sorry to be a pain, but I really do appreciate your efforts.
I will take your new directions and see what I can find, but if I remeber from what I saw last time, the 2 speed is sitting right in front of the numbers on the front of the pumpkin making them unreadable.
Worse case scenario, I may just jack up the rear end and count driveshaft revs in low and high range to get close on the ring and pinion. None of this info is dire in need, I am just curious, so don't waste any more time than you already have. Thanks again, and if I ever get out your way you have at least a bottle or case of you favorite beverage coming your way.
Matt
I will take your new directions and see what I can find, but if I remeber from what I saw last time, the 2 speed is sitting right in front of the numbers on the front of the pumpkin making them unreadable.
Worse case scenario, I may just jack up the rear end and count driveshaft revs in low and high range to get close on the ring and pinion. None of this info is dire in need, I am just curious, so don't waste any more time than you already have. Thanks again, and if I ever get out your way you have at least a bottle or case of you favorite beverage coming your way.
Matt
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Ok, got to crawl around under the truck this morning, the only other numbers I could find on the axle tube were on the passenger side (like you said they would be) and there were two lines of numbers..
64816
6SER
If you can glean any additional info, great. If not, like I stated above, don't kill yourself researching this, it is more for my curiosity than anything. Thanks again,
Matt
64816
6SER
If you can glean any additional info, great. If not, like I stated above, don't kill yourself researching this, it is more for my curiosity than anything. Thanks again,
Matt
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F10 = F100 2WD
J = 223 1V I-6
K = Kansas City Assembly Plant
375183 = Assembled January 1963
AXLE 12 = Ford 9" Rear Axle / 3.89-1 / non Limited Slip / 3,300 lb. Rear Axle Capacity.
TRANS A = Ford Type 3.03 3 Speed Manual all Syncromesh Transmission.
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F500
F50CE802394 156W F500 481 AF 15000 164 3800 I think this is an F500 Assembled in Mahwah 156" wheelbase. Standard cab 15K GVW 164HP@3800 RPM. Please correct me if any of this is wrong. Can you fill in the blanks? Thanks, Ian P.S. Could you suggest where I look for a windshield and headliner?
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F50CE802394 156W F500 481 AF 15000 164 3800
I think this is an F500 Assembled in Mahwah 156" wheelbase. Standard cab 15K GVW 164HP@3800 RPM. Please correct me if any of this is wrong. Can you fill in the blanks? Thanks, Ian P.S. Could you suggest where I look for a windshield and headliner?
I think this is an F500 Assembled in Mahwah 156" wheelbase. Standard cab 15K GVW 164HP@3800 RPM. Please correct me if any of this is wrong. Can you fill in the blanks? Thanks, Ian P.S. Could you suggest where I look for a windshield and headliner?
F50 = F500
C = 330 2V Medium Duty FT Engine
E = Mahwah NJ Assembly Plant
802394 = Assembled January 1966
156" Wheelbase
F500 / 15,000 lbs. GVWR
481: 4 = Medium beige crush vinyl & medium beige wicker pattern vinyl // 81 = 81A Standard Cab
AF: ? **
15,000 lbs. Gross Vehicle Weight Rating
164 Net HP @ 3,800 RPM
The windshield is the same as all 1961/66 F100/1100's and is still available from autoglass shops.
denniscarpenter.com has reproduced the headliner.
** The single digit TRANS CODE is listed first followed by a two or three digit AXLE CODE.
A is a New Process 435 4 speed manual.
There is no AF, or just F listed as an AXLE CODE for this truck.
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Bill, thank you very much. The AF is followed by a 7. In addition the 3800 is followed by a 16. I was quite literally trying to read this plate by candle light. Last question... any idea as to the original paint? Again my thanks, Ian
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F7: Eaton Model 13802 Two Speed Rear Axle / 5.83-1 & 8.11-1 / 15,000 lb. Rear Axle Capacity
16: Philadelphia PA Ford District Sales Zone Office, where the original selling dealer ordered the truck from.
The COLOR code is listed between the Wheelbase (156) and the Model Code (F500).
If there is no COLOR code there, the original purchaser specified a particular color that was not standard.
Examples of this: Coca-Cola Red / Bell Telephone Green / American Airlines Dark Blue / Edison Light Green.
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The 156 is followed immediately with a W. Does that mean white or is this conclusion too easy? At any rate I sincerely thank you for answering all my questions and if I now perform at my end I will send off a photo of the un-restored but working truck. Ian
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W = Marlin Blue aka Medium Blue (M = Wimbledon White / C = Pure White)
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LOL... You aren't bothering me, cuz decoding this jazz is one a the things I do here.
I've decoded well over 600 VIN's and Warranty Plates here on FTE in 31 months.
I've decoded well over 600 VIN's and Warranty Plates here on FTE in 31 months.
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I found a napco 4wd. Here is the information that I have on the truck. The guy has not had a chance to give the info off of the warranty plate yet, but he has the card that came with the truck when it was new. I don't know what numbers are codes and what numbers are not, but maybe someone on here can make some sense of it. Thanks for your help.
Here is the way he says it is listed on the card:
F60AK616XXX 0121 5
M 4 O 25L F8F L
DATE DELIVERED 12-14-64 61462 7
Any ideas?
Here is the way he says it is listed on the card:
F60AK616XXX 0121 5
M 4 O 25L F8F L
DATE DELIVERED 12-14-64 61462 7
Any ideas?
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I found a napco 4wd. Here is the information that I have on the truck. The guy has not had a chance to give the info off of the warranty plate yet, but he has the card that came with the truck when it was new. I don't know what numbers are codes and what numbers are not, but maybe someone on here can make some sense of it. Thanks for your help.
Here is the way he says it is listed on the card:
F60AK616XXX 0121 5
M 4 O 25L F8F L
DATE DELIVERED 12-14-64 61462 7
614627 = This could be the DSO code...or maybe not. This code will be listed on the Warranty Plate.
Any ideas?
Here is the way he says it is listed on the card:
F60AK616XXX 0121 5
M 4 O 25L F8F L
DATE DELIVERED 12-14-64 61462 7
614627 = This could be the DSO code...or maybe not. This code will be listed on the Warranty Plate.
Any ideas?
F60 = F600 2WD
A = 330 2V Medium Duty FT engine
K = Kansas City Assembly Plant
616XXX = 1965, assembled November 1964 (November serial number range: 612,000 - 623,999).
0121 = ?
5 = 1965
Production date 25L = Assembled November 25, 1964 (A is January, Ford skips the letter I).
M = Wimbledon White
4 = ?
O = ?
F8F = ?
L = ?
DSO 614627:
61 = Dallas TX Ford District Sales Zone Office, where the original selling dealer ordered the truck from.
4627 = Domestic Special Order number.
The VIN states F600 2WD because it was converted by NAPCO after it was sold.
If the VIN began with F61, it would be F600 4WD, the conversion would have been done by Marmon-Herrington.
Thru at least 1979, Ford sent F600's to Marmon-Herrington (M-H) to be converted to 4WD before the trucks were shipped to the dealers.
These F600's are considered factory 4WD's even though they were converted to 4WD by M-H.
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Thanks for the information, NumberDummy
The dso is right because the truck came from Texas. It is white.
Does anyone have any pics of original napco f600's? I would think that these trucks are not seen very often. As soon as I can I will post some pics of this truck. Maybe someone can look at the pics and figure some more information out about it.
The dso is right because the truck came from Texas. It is white.
Does anyone have any pics of original napco f600's? I would think that these trucks are not seen very often. As soon as I can I will post some pics of this truck. Maybe someone can look at the pics and figure some more information out about it.