Power Hungry Performance
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Scott here in Ocala is the one who stung me with PMS, his truck is DP Tuned and man is it awesome. He has been dealing with Jody for a long time now and recomends only him. But everyone has their opinions. All I know is that when I can afford to have my truck down for a couple days I'm sending the PCM up there to have a chip burned on it.
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Thanks Diane!
Great to get info right from the source.
You guys are still on my 'recommended tuners' list that I give customers when asked, so is Tony.
Great to get info right from the source.
You guys are still on my 'recommended tuners' list that I give customers when asked, so is Tony.
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Yes i would certainly recommend them. Tony as well. Actually my list of tuners that I might recommend is growing. I just wish I had the money to give them all a try. DP, TW, PHP, DI, Swamp's....
Why send in the PCM. Just get a chip and have no down time....
Scott here in Ocala is the one who stung me with PMS, his truck is DP Tuned and man is it awesome. He has been dealing with Jody for a long time now and recomends only him. But everyone has their opinions. All I know is that when I can afford to have my truck down for a couple days I'm sending the PCM up there to have a chip burned on it.
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im looking to upgrade to a chip probly a dp or a wildman but every programmer i have run edge evo, and 2 super chips with difrent trans codes seem to make the tranny shift and work like crap any ideas on this or what i should ask for
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Just order a chip from one of those two guys and you don't need to ask for anything special. They will be a HUGE improvement over what you have already run!
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Well my biggest reason is that my PCM wont provide "enhanced codes" right now, hasnt since I bought it. Jody said he can reflash it to read them. Would an add on chip solve my issue?
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That makes sense. No I don't believe adding a chip will cure that. Your on the right track
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Well hopefully I can do it soon, just dont see when I'll be able to be vehicle-less for a week.
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A chip is still a little ways away for me right now. I gotta get gauges first. Im just gonna keep my eyes open and see if I can learn more on these folks. I'll either go with TW or these guys when I get ready. They offer a "quiet mode" that sparks my curiosity. I wonder if TW can do a Quiet Mode. I hate turning my truck off at the drive thru.
BTW I have a TW and love it so I am not pushing one or the other just helping with your decision.
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Any one who goes with PHP will be getting the best of the best. They have great customer service and Bill has been responsible for helping some people dive into the tuning arena.
Jim, Going back to many archives listed on TDS you will find that the software has been "called" different names. First when it was presented in the last quarter of 2003 it was called the "TS Performance" software. It only became the DP-Tuner software because we were asked if we wanted to sell it after Bill went to work for Edge and Jody continued the support of his previous customers. I had never known it was ever called the TS software until I recently read the archives on TDS. There is no rights to PCMX except from Kevin Timmerman. In fact he still sells the same software Jody use to use.( Jody uses something else now) You just need the right RDT's to use with it for the brand of vehicle you want to tune. He is the developer of the software. However with out the RDT's that Bill brought to it it was not compatible with the Ford OS. We stopped selling the software Bill started selling on TDS for many reasons, but there is no rights to it from any one except the creator. FWIW, our company name carries a registered trademark and used on media or websites without our consent carries a enforced fine through the USPTO. Thanks, Diane
Jim, Going back to many archives listed on TDS you will find that the software has been "called" different names. First when it was presented in the last quarter of 2003 it was called the "TS Performance" software. It only became the DP-Tuner software because we were asked if we wanted to sell it after Bill went to work for Edge and Jody continued the support of his previous customers. I had never known it was ever called the TS software until I recently read the archives on TDS. There is no rights to PCMX except from Kevin Timmerman. In fact he still sells the same software Jody use to use.( Jody uses something else now) You just need the right RDT's to use with it for the brand of vehicle you want to tune. He is the developer of the software. However with out the RDT's that Bill brought to it it was not compatible with the Ford OS. We stopped selling the software Bill started selling on TDS for many reasons, but there is no rights to it from any one except the creator. FWIW, our company name carries a registered trademark and used on media or websites without our consent carries a enforced fine through the USPTO. Thanks, Diane
Diane, thank you for the kudos!
I must clarify some things, however, so that nobody is confused.
1 - When we owned Diesel Power, Jody purchased our DP Tuner tuning software almost a full year after I tuned his 7.3L. Luckily, we keep really good records, so we know that I tuned Jody's truck (with an 80hp calibration) for the first time on May 29, 2003. There were shifting issues with that calibration, and I tried a few times to tweak it long distance. Jody came over to our house on July 19, 2003 so that I could live tune his truck. Obviously, that was long before Jody started tuning and DP-Tuner was created. In fact, we still have the invoice showing that Jody purchased our DP Tuner software, all of my stock Ford calibrations, all then current Ford Power Stroke calibrations, all then current RDT Ford Power Stroke RDT files, and 2 Romulator adapters on May 5, 2004.
2- As an authorized reseller for both the PCMX and the subsequent DP Tuner Software, I sold TS Performance a fully licensed version of the software on May 6, 2003, and THAT is when their licensed copy became known as TS Performance Software.
3 - Diane is absolutely right about the fact that Kevin wrote the software. What has not been made clear, however, is that at my request, Kevin built us a private-labeled version called DP Tuner which was initially released on January 27, 2004. This software superceded PCMX, which is what we had been reselling up to that point. He is the one who added our company information, software name (DP Tuner, I came up with) and the Diesel Power logo into the software. We were -- and still are -- authorized to distribute it to anyone we choose, and we pay him a license fee for every copy. For those who own a copy of DP Tuner Software, the logo is displayed by pressing ALT+F12.
4 - We have recently become aware that Jody chose to copyright the name DP Tuner, which is why we always make sure to differentiate DP Tuner Software from DP Tuner (the company). That's no different than, say, the company named "Mustang," which makes dynos and the car named "Mustang." One is a company name; one is a product name. Since 2004, we have used the name DP Tuner with and without the hyphen interchangeably. After we became aware of your trademark, we have tried only to use DP Tuner Software without the hyphen (out of respect to DP-Tuner's website name which bears the hyphen) and have always added the word "Software" after it in order to differentiate between the two. There's never any question that we are referencing our software.
If there is still any question as to the origin of the DP Tuner name with regard to our tuning software or our authorization to resell it, we will graciously provide any documentation requested.
Note to Moderators:
This thread is titled Power Hungry Performance. Diane chose to jump in and post some wrong information about us and our company. Our post is in response to this misinformation. Everything we posted is objective and everything can be documented -- we have every e-mail and every invoice; we will be happy to provide this information to validate all statements in this post if you'd like. Feel free to give us a shout if you have any questions.
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A chip is still a little ways away for me right now. I gotta get gauges first. Im just gonna keep my eyes open and see if I can learn more on these folks. I'll either go with TW or these guys when I get ready. They offer a "quiet mode" that sparks my curiosity. I wonder if TW can do a Quiet Mode. I hate turning my truck off at the drive thru.
We'll post it on the website, so you might want to check there in February if you're still curious.
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PHP Whisper Mode (as well as DP Tuner Stealth Mode) works great at the drive thru, saves having to drag my 18 month old daughter into the bank in the middle of winter.
I've asked Tony about coming up with a whisper/stealth tune and he said he won't waste his time doing it. ???
Scroll down to the bottom of the PHP home page. It says right there that they own the rights to DP Tuner software. And I read that Tony learned (got started with help from) from DP Tuner, and DP Tuner learned (got started with help from) from Bill at PHP. So, who do you think knows more about tuning?
I think Tony is a great guy and has great tunes. You can't go wrong with him if you choose that route. Check and see, I think he does free re-burns, too.
I've asked Tony about coming up with a whisper/stealth tune and he said he won't waste his time doing it. ???
Scroll down to the bottom of the PHP home page. It says right there that they own the rights to DP Tuner software. And I read that Tony learned (got started with help from) from DP Tuner, and DP Tuner learned (got started with help from) from Bill at PHP. So, who do you think knows more about tuning?
I think Tony is a great guy and has great tunes. You can't go wrong with him if you choose that route. Check and see, I think he does free re-burns, too.
) Give us a shout if you need anything!Have to agree with you about Tony -- a great guy who knows his stuff when it comes to tuning!
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There is one more reason you might consider a DP. They are in Atlanta and from what I understand they will do live tuning. That would be a plus to be only a few hours from live tuning. Just a thought since we are somewhat from the same area.
BTW I have a TW and love it so I am not pushing one or the other just helping with your decision.
BTW I have a TW and love it so I am not pushing one or the other just helping with your decision.
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Great I would like to see the video's. Sorry for referring to it as quiet mode, I was just pulling from memory which isnt so great. You guys sound like a great company to do business with. I'd like to order a chip soon, and maybe be that 500th customer, but I have injectors to pay for and some gauges to buy first.