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Old Jan 19, 2009 | 09:44 PM
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the t-case is not syncronized, unless the front and rear axles are spinning at the same speed it will grind like a *****. a shift on the fly you could engage the t-case with the rear spinning.
 
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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 12:44 AM
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OK, some mechanical definitions here: A clutch can be an interference clutch or a friction clutch. You're putting on the limited definition to only call a friction clutch a clutch. But interference clutches are also a clutch. They may be called dog clutches, spline clutches or jaw clutches. But they work on the principle of only being positively engaged or freewheeling. There's no in between. Attempting to engage without matching the speed will grind them. Manual hubs are clutches, the rage selector is a clutch, as are the selectors in a manual transmission that pick the gear. It just so happens that in most manuals, there's also a cone clutch, also known as a synchronizer that makes the speeds match before the jaw clutch engages.
 
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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by c00nhunterjoe
the t-case is not syncronized, unless the front and rear axles are spinning at the same speed it will grind like a *****. a shift on the fly you could engage the t-case with the rear spinning.
Oh, your saying if the front and rear are not synchronized. That will dork any t-case up.
I thought you were referring to shifting while moving forward.
 
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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by joe_13894
OK, some mechanical definitions here: A clutch can be an interference clutch or a friction clutch. You're putting on the limited definition to only call a friction clutch a clutch. But interference clutches are also a clutch. They may be called dog clutches, spline clutches or jaw clutches. But they work on the principle of only being positively engaged or freewheeling. There's no in between. Attempting to engage without matching the speed will grind them. Manual hubs are clutches, the rage selector is a clutch, as are the selectors in a manual transmission that pick the gear. It just so happens that in most manuals, there's also a cone clutch, also known as a synchronizer that makes the speeds match before the jaw clutch engages.
I think your getting some things confused with each other. Manual locking hubs are not really clutches at all. I cannot think of a better term for them however.
If there are gears or splines involved, they have a different name, and its not a clutch. Per my knowledge anyways.
 
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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 07:30 PM
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ok kinda off the subject but the other day i was pulling a trailer full of concrete and rock and had to put it in 4x4 to get the trailer to the dump spot i was in first with the 4x4 locked in and i was going good until i heard a pop and the front tires quit turning so i looked under the truck the front driveshaft was working looked at all the u joints none where broke checked the hubs both said locked so i tried again still no front tire spin i was pissed at this point because my boss with a chevy was gonna have to pull me out so i unlocked and locked the front hubs back in and the front started spinning again but at this point i had done dug the back tires in a hole i wasn't going no where with that trailer hooked to it so my boss had to pull me out but what could make the front hubs unlocked so no more cheap chevy v6 base model truck has to pull out a PSD
 
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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 08:04 PM
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soundsl ike you busted a hub or a diff
 
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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 08:27 PM
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but it started working again
 
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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 09:12 PM
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Read about clutches here:

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Don't get into the mindset that the only form of a clutch is the friction clutch. A clutch is defined as anything that can selectively couple the rotation of one shaft to another shaft.
 
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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 10:50 PM
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I understand joe, but I dont consider any type of "spline drive" to be a clutch.
 
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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 07:30 AM
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but it started working again
Sounds like a hub busted. You might have wiggled it enough when you disengaged it and re-engaged it to make it grab again. I would start there before I went in the Diff.
 
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