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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 04:44 PM
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I don't see your point, quick. You're going over my head tonight.

Why do you say cobbled up? From all of the pictures I have seen, these rare beasts look pretty nifty to me. I would love to own a 4-door Bronco.
Do you know how they lengthen the frames? They cut it and weld in a new section of C-channel. To me, that's cobbled. Not saying they're poorly constructed, but they are definitely an aftermarket conversion.

I started to say I've seen many more Gen1 Lightnings than I have these 4-door Broncos, but after a thought I realized I have never seen one of these trucks. To me, these Bronco's are rare.
You have probably seen them but didn't notice them. I see one driving around here at least a few times a year, and I don't drive that much. They are probably rarer in the rust belt because a lot of them haven't lasted. Where I live they aren't hard to find at all.
 
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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by andym
Do you know how they lengthen the frames? They cut it and weld in a new section of C-channel. To me, that's cobbled. Not saying they're poorly constructed, but they are definitely an aftermarket conversion.



You have probably seen them but didn't notice them. I see one driving around here at least a few times a year, and I don't drive that much. They are probably rarer in the rust belt because a lot of them haven't lasted. Where I live they aren't hard to find at all.
I don't drive much either but I've always got an eye out for other vehicles. Trucks are my ****.

 
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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 05:21 PM
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LOL. I've seen one of these broncos, in a 4wheel and peterson magazine. SWEET!!! I'd love to have one of the pick-ups though, with dual tanks.
 
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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by andym
Do you know how they lengthen the frames? They cut it and weld in a new section of C-channel. To me, that's cobbled. Not saying they're poorly constructed, but they are definitely an aftermarket conversion.
Heck, I can't find it now, but Skan posted pics of the weld seam on his F150. I'm pretty sure that Centurion did that all in house rather than just using the 4-door cabs from the F350.

I think he also posted a pic of the frame showing where it was cut.
 
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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by andym
You have probably seen them but didn't notice them. I see one driving around here at least a few times a year, and I don't drive that much. They are probably rarer in the rust belt because a lot of them haven't lasted. Where I live they aren't hard to find at all.
Here's one for sale locally (to me, anyway): 91 Ford 350 4x4 Custom Centurion - Great Truck

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Heck, I can't find it now, but Skan posted pics of the weld seam on his F150. I'm pretty sure that Centurion did that all in house rather than just using the 4-door cabs from the F350.

I think he also posted a pic of the frame showing where it was cut.
Yeah, I was thinking of his truck when I wrote that. He showed me the welds when he was at my house one day.
 
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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 06:38 PM
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Webster's definition of cobbled: "to make or put together roughly or hastily".

I think a good example of cobbled was the time the throttle cable in my buddy's dad's old rig broke on the interstate between two cities in the middle of nowhere at 3:00 in the morning. The only thing we had on hand was a coat hanger. We attached it to the throttle somehow and drove home with one hand on the steering wheel and the other on the throttle (coat hanger) cable.

I know nothing about Centurion and how hastily or shodilly they work, so an opinion on cobbled would be hard to come by.
 
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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 10:16 PM
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I'd love to extend my pick-up. Find a crew cab body to go on it and extend the frame lines, driveshaft ETC. While I got the body might as well do some frame restoration.
 
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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 06:58 PM
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ive done a pretty decent amount of research on Bronco Centurions. here are a few things to note:

not all four-door broncos are indeed Centurions. some 4dr Broncos were "cobbled together" by small, independent shops, or by individuals with so-so welding and body-work skills. these trucks have given Centurions somewhat of a bad name in some circles, because many people generalize all 4dr Broncos to be Centurions.

Ford actually licensed Centurion to do the conversions. in fact, Centurions were available brand new through many Ford dealerships.

ive seen a few of them in my lifetime in person, but i did not get to see the interior or the underside. but from what i could see, the exterior looked flawless.

the only real known issues with Bronco Centurions (at least from my countless hours of research) are the same issues many factory 2dr full-sized Broncos are notorious for. the worst problem areas with Broncos and Bronco Centurions are the roofs and the tailgates. leaks, rust and peeling paint are quite common, especially on the 1987-1992 models. when the body update came into effect in 1993, many of the roof-related issues became a thing of the past, especially on properly maintained vehicles.

i love Excursions, but my true dream vehicle is a 1996 Bronco Centurion C-350 with a 7.3L Powerstroke, 4 wheel drive, and a leather interior. its gonna be hard for me to find one, but when i actively start looking for one in a couple of years, my hope is that i'll be able to have one in my driveway.
 
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Old Mar 30, 2009 | 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 6CylBill
I don't drive much either but I've always got an eye out for other vehicles. Trucks are my ****.

same here bill i have my eye on and 87-91 black and grey f150 for 2500
 
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Old Mar 30, 2009 | 08:25 PM
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id say there pretty rare, after all there arent that many of them. Why is one of the hertz mustang's so valuable its just a ford shelby mustang that was bought by a rental company. Id consider a centurion rare.
 
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Old Mar 30, 2009 | 08:42 PM
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just wait about 30 to 40 years and see what their worth or how rare they are, if you can find one then! just kinda like the antique trucks that are worth some money or are in high demand now.
 
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Old Mar 31, 2009 | 04:53 AM
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Originally Posted by TNT1968
Hard to find/few made is rare. You seem to be talking about desirability Quicklook2.

Plymouth Superbirds were rare when new because they were expensive and odd looking compared to other cars - believe it or not they weren't desirable.Stories of Superbirds sitting in dealer showrooms until nearly the mid-'70s are out there. Now the low numbers and cool unique looks make them some of the most desirable musclecars out there.

Granted a four door Bronco is not gonna cause a sensation in all probability but they have to be rare-not many out there.Desirability mixed with rarity is what makes vehicles expensive.

A '57 Chevy is desirable but not rare. A Henry J is rare but not necessarily desirable. The Superbird example is rare and desirable.


Well said, TNT.
 
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Old Mar 31, 2009 | 09:09 AM
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"rare" is a relative term.

one persons "rare" may be another persons "abomination".
 
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